Trying to find real primo is a feat in itself. The UGL in my circle are not trustworthy and no TRT clinic is going to prescribe it. The majority of us that want to do this in a healthy way are just f’d.
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Whaaaaat!?! Is there really no Injectables out there for us less fortunate SHGB fellows 
Like… Maybe less androgenic drugs like nandrolone, test + 5 a reductase inhibitor etc (notwithstanding the potential for post Finasteride syndrome and whatnot). But with supraphysiological androgen loads you crash SHBG… That’s just how it works.
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@unreal24278 so how is your history? What did Arnold take back in the day? Why is that not good enough now? I have no interest in becoming Rodney Coldman But I would like to look like Arnold. What do you think? Can i Do it with just T? Do I really need to crash my lipids with aas’s to get the Arnold look? And just to keep this post on topic my shgb is 6 thanks to anavar and winny.
I can name five places off the top of my head that sell tested primo. Three of them are searchable on Google. Everything you can imagine is abundant and cheap relative to what it once was.
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Probably not. Most people won’t look like Arnold even if they take all the synthetics in the world.
Arnold took test, deca, primo, dbol, tren (when it came to market), winny, Anavar. They weren’t shy on the orals back in the day, and many of these synthetic derivatives elicit a distinctly dense, full, glycogen filled look that test alone fails to adequately replicate.
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What are the mental sides u talking bout? Larry Wheels bloods showed a shbg of like 2 lol
He said mostly test, dbol and primo. Probably everything available, but he talked the most about those 3. I’m guessing his dosages were higher than stated though.
Honestly, for me a decent amount of muscle mass (200 lean at 5’10"), leanness and strength are what I’m going for. Don’t need to get super complicated. Probably I’ll just use test, mild orals, and I’m curious to try dhb.
@mnben87 @unreal24278 thank you, brothers. I value your input. I’ve been a good boy for the last 6 months. I have a PCP blood and physical coming in August. Post that I have a TRT blood and consult. Thanks to my experiments with AAS’s my shgb and lipids tanked big time. I just hope I have recovered from that journey. Thanks to many here who offered advice on supplements to get my blood numbers back in range. For those interested the supplement were Taurine, L-Cysteine, and Tamoxifen
To stay on topic my SHGB dropped to 6 do to AAS usage. My normal is 16 and my naddy was 29.
Lipids go back to normal fairly quickly upon ceasing use.
Takes around 2-4 weeks off orals, 4-8 weeks off injectables. Quicker if you take statins.
Arnold didn’t take much test in the 60s/70s… It wasn’t uncommon for nandrolone only cycles to be employed.
Arnold used tren hex when it was available. Deca, dbol, winny and primo were purportedly his bread and butter
@unreal24278 Wow where did you learn this? I have been a fan of Arnold for many years. We are the same age. In the 1960’s early 70 s the aas’s we have now did not exist.
Those might be common, but it did seem Arnold talked about those three the most. Don’t get me wrong, I’m guessing he used everything available for at least a bit.
He had deca, primo, winny etc in the 60s/70s
Winny has been around since 1959. Primo since early 60s… Nandrolone late 1950s etc
Trenbolone was also synthesised in the late 1950s… But didn’t come to market (to my knowledge) until the 80s
You’re seventy four? WHAT
I thought you were late sixties?
No test for Arnold.
Again, tons and tons of bodybuilders have crushed shbg IF u check their blood work, yet they feel great, what gives?
I’m 68. 74-68=6 So we are 6 years apart. That doesn’t qualify as the same in your book? OK, we are close to the same age. Happy, haha
Feeling of constantly being agitated, annoyed, short fuse. Over thinking. I only get these one my SHBG is low.
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Everyone is different. It isn’t that simple
I feel fine with low SHBG
Well that is the thing, isnt it? Then how do we know it is the actual low shbg and not something else that is correlated with it?
If it would be a biological “law” or something, that low shbg makes u feel shit/not give any gains on cycle, then why do so many competing bodybuilders (who have their shbg in the gutter year round due to all kinds of androgens and orals they are using) get so damn huge and often - not always - feel fine?
It must be something we are missing here.
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