[quote]Headhunter wrote:
How’d he get his Bronze Star?
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By shooting himself in the ass.
And I`ll never believe otherwise even if he gets a handful of them.
[quote]pookie wrote:
JeffR wrote:
There are 160,000 heroes in Iraq.
So Petraeus is not really a standout, then. He’s just one of 160,000 others just like him.
Thanks for clearing that up for us.
I agree 100%.
Of course you do.
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Every hero is a standout. Are some more heroic than others? Sure.
However, when you reach hero status, one deserves a baseline level of respect.
Especially, from someone who has never done anything remotely dangerous or selfless–aka…pookie.
JeffR
P.S. You questioned whether he was a hero. Then you said that all canadians in Afghanistan were heroes. If you want to be seen as anything more than an unthinking American hater, you might want to acknowledge that Patreus is indeed a hero.
[quote]orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
How’d he get his Bronze Star?
By shooting himself in the ass.
And I`ll never believe otherwise even if he gets a handful of them.
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That’s what makes you so easy to ignore. Your ability to shut yourself off from any ideas that don’t conform to your rigid world-view makes you the one and only, bota.
Thanks for the honesty, however.
Sad thing is, there were democrats saying the exact same thing to Patreus’ face.
JeffR
[quote]JeffR wrote:
HH,
This gives you an idea of the lengths that the malignant pus-pimples (bradley/limbic/pookie) will go. No honor, no erudition, no accomplishments of their own.
In short, they aren’t fit to comment on this General.
Just to make sure everyone understands, this man has trigger time.
I choose that particular link because it’s easily read (the only kind the pus-pimples would read).
Here is another favorite site of pus-pimpledom. It’s longer (hopefully, they can concentrate long enough).
You’ll see that he was leading his division when he was ambushed by paramilitary groups.
This man is A HERO. Anyone who says otherwise, brings shame to themselves.
JeffR
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OMG, OMG,
he killed someone, he´s even tougher than Guliani!
Such a strong, tough manly man!
And he looks so dashing in his uniform!
I can understand why you get all hot and bothered in your little cheer leader uniform.
Gotta hand it to him, the guy knows how to come off clean.
“Some type of success in Iraq is possible” – Gen David Petraeus
Who can possibly challenge that?
[quote]JeffR wrote:
orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
How’d he get his Bronze Star?
By shooting himself in the ass.
And I`ll never believe otherwise even if he gets a handful of them.
That’s what makes you so easy to ignore. Your ability to shut yourself off from any ideas that don’t conform to your rigid world-view makes you the one and only, bota.
Thanks for the honesty, however.
Sad thing is, there were democrats saying the exact same thing to Patreus’ face.
JeffR
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Really?
I was just paraphrasing HH, I bet he will be interested in your judgement of his character.
That is the way he characterizes John Kerry, you know?
[quote]JeffR wrote:
Every hero is a standout. Are some more heroic than others? Sure.
However, when you reach hero status, one deserves a baseline level of respect.[/quote]
I give that respect to anyone who signs up to serve his country, any country. I even respect them enough not to condescend to calling them all “heroes” like you do; like you would to a class of 5 years old when you tell them they are all “champions” or “winners.” I also don’t disparage them by referring to them as a “stupid crowd” unlike HH who seems to derive amusement from it.
Tell me again who lacks respect here.
Right, right. You know all about me.
Anyone going to war in the desert wearing green camo and using equipment that was obsolete before WWII has cojones the size of the Rock of Gibraltar.
I have already acknowledged his competency and noted his accomplishments. You still haven’t been able to point out any of his action that establish him as above and beyond others of his rank. I will not call him “a hero” in the condescending manner you do, that’s for sure.
[quote]pookie wrote:
JeffR wrote:
Every hero is a standout. Are some more heroic than others? Sure.
However, when you reach hero status, one deserves a baseline level of respect.
I give that respect to anyone who signs up to serve his country, any country. I even respect them enough not to condescend to calling them all “heroes” like you do; like you would to a class of 5 years old when you tell them they are all “champions” or “winners.” I also don’t disparage them by referring to them as a “stupid crowd” unlike HH who seems to derive amusement from it.
Tell me again who lacks respect here.
Especially, from someone who has never done anything remotely dangerous or selfless–aka…pookie.
Right, right. You know all about me.
P.S. You questioned whether he was a hero. Then you said that all canadians in Afghanistan were heroes.
Anyone going to war in the desert wearing green camo and using equipment that was obsolete before WWII has cojones the size of the Rock of Gibraltar.
If you want to be seen as anything more than an unthinking American hater, you might want to acknowledge that Patreus is indeed a hero.
I have already acknowledged his competency and noted his accomplishments. You still haven’t been able to point out any of his action that establish him as above and beyond others of his rank. I will not call him “a hero” in the condescending manner you do, that’s for sure.
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Do you ever get dizzy from spinning?
So now it’s: “The troops would feel disparaged by being called heroes?”
It might be time to get a new hobby.
JeffR
[quote]orion wrote:
JeffR wrote:
HH,
This gives you an idea of the lengths that the malignant pus-pimples (bradley/limbic/pookie) will go. No honor, no erudition, no accomplishments of their own.
In short, they aren’t fit to comment on this General.
Just to make sure everyone understands, this man has trigger time.
I choose that particular link because it’s easily read (the only kind the pus-pimples would read).
Here is another favorite site of pus-pimpledom. It’s longer (hopefully, they can concentrate long enough).
You’ll see that he was leading his division when he was ambushed by paramilitary groups.
This man is A HERO. Anyone who says otherwise, brings shame to themselves.
JeffR
OMG, OMG,
he killed someone, he´s even tougher than Guliani!
Such a strong, tough manly man!
And he looks so dashing in his uniform!
I can understand why you get all hot and bothered in your little cheer leader uniform.
[/quote]
bota,
You have serious problems.
This would have been a good time to back off your statement of:
"By shooting himself in the ass.
And I`ll never believe otherwise even if he gets a handful of them."
That is not only incredibly revealing, (You want to believe only your talking points), it’s also quite ignorant.
What if 1,000,000,000 soldiers/civilians brought video/documentation/first hand testimony to your door showing that he was indeed under fire and deserved the bronze star? Would you STILL refuse to believe it?
Wait, don’t answer that.
JeffR
[quote]JeffR wrote:
Do you ever get dizzy from spinning?
So now it’s: “The troops would feel disparaged by being called heroes?”[/quote]
The way you do it? Damn right they should. You’re not recognizing someone’s particularly remarkable accomplishment, you’re calling them all heroes, and in so doing diluting the term to meaninglessness.
It’s like when call a group of competing children “champions” although they can’t all be the “champion,” it makes them feel good about themselves; and with young children it ok to exaggerate their accomplishments to help build their self-esteem.
But to do so with adults, grown men and women who voluntarily put themselves in the line of fire? Do you think they’re all simpletons who’ll swallow up your “hero” label like a seal would a fish? You might not say so in so many words, but it appear that you to think they’re a “stupid crowd.”
No, that’s ok. Pointing out your idiocy still amuses me for now.
[quote]pookie wrote:
JeffR wrote:
Do you ever get dizzy from spinning?
So now it’s: “The troops would feel disparaged by being called heroes?”
The way you do it? Damn right they should. You’re not recognizing someone’s particularly remarkable accomplishment, you’re calling them all heroes, and in so doing diluting the term to meaninglessness.
It’s like when call a group of competing children “champions” although they can’t all be the “champion,” it makes them feel good about themselves; and with young children it ok to exaggerate their accomplishments to help build their self-esteem.
But to do so with adults, grown men and women who voluntarily put themselves in the line of fire? Do you think they’re all simpletons who’ll swallow up your “hero” label like a seal would a fish? You might not say so in so many words, but it appear that you to think they’re a “stupid crowd.”
It might be time to get a new hobby.
No, that’s ok. Pointing out your idiocy still amuses me for now.
[/quote]
Speaking of amusement, let’s draw this out.
I have a series of questions.
First of all, here is your earlier exchange with HH:
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Are any of the Canadians in Afghanistan heroes?
Everyone single one of them.[/quote]
Note to everyone: see how he didn’t parse Canadian heroes. However, he seems hell bent on doing it with Americans.
First, what is the acceptable number of American heroes?
Second, does heroism (in your mind) depend upon whether you agree with the mission?
Third, why do you not feel obligated to parse the definition of Canadian heroes? “every single one of them?”
Aren’t you guilty of (in your words) “you’re calling them all heroes, and in so doing diluting the term to meaninglessness?”
Fourth, are Canadian soldiers doing more courageous things than Americans?
Fifth, if Patreus was standing before the Congressional members who confirmed him and TRASHING THE SURGE, can you say with a straight face that you wouldn’t be defending him?
Thanks in advance,
JeffR
[quote]JeffR wrote:
I have a series of questions.[/quote]
You know your own little rules. First things first: Before we go any further, you have to answer the questions from this past June. There are at least 3 copies of them on the site, you know where to find them. Hint: Look for uranium.
Then you need to swing by your “loon” thread and admit to all how wrong you were. Again.
I’ll meet you back here as soon as you’re done.
Unless your elephantine testicles are completely filled with yellow-belly juice?
Maybe I’ll start my own little betting thread? Who’s betting that Jeffry will be unable to complete this challenge?
[quote]JeffR wrote:
pookie wrote:
JeffR wrote:
Do you ever get dizzy from spinning?
So now it’s: “The troops would feel disparaged by being called heroes?”
The way you do it? Damn right they should. You’re not recognizing someone’s particularly remarkable accomplishment, you’re calling them all heroes, and in so doing diluting the term to meaninglessness.
It’s like when call a group of competing children “champions” although they can’t all be the “champion,” it makes them feel good about themselves; and with young children it ok to exaggerate their accomplishments to help build their self-esteem.
But to do so with adults, grown men and women who voluntarily put themselves in the line of fire? Do you think they’re all simpletons who’ll swallow up your “hero” label like a seal would a fish? You might not say so in so many words, but it appear that you to think they’re a “stupid crowd.”
It might be time to get a new hobby.
No, that’s ok. Pointing out your idiocy still amuses me for now.
Speaking of amusement, let’s draw this out.
I have a series of questions.
First of all, here is your earlier exchange with HH:
Headhunter wrote:
Are any of the Canadians in Afghanistan heroes?
Everyone single one of them.
Note to everyone: see how he didn’t parse Canadian heroes. However, he seems hell bent on doing it with Americans.
First, what is the acceptable number of American heroes?
Second, does heroism (in your mind) depend upon whether you agree with the mission?
Third, why do you not feel obligated to parse the definition of Canadian heroes? “every single one of them?”
Aren’t you guilty of (in your words) “you’re calling them all heroes, and in so doing diluting the term to meaninglessness?”
Fourth, are Canadian soldiers doing more courageous things than Americans?
Fifth, if Patreus was standing before the Congressional members who confirmed him and TRASHING THE SURGE, can you say with a straight face that you wouldn’t be defending him?
Thanks in advance,
JeffR
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can you at some point spell the hero’s name correctly?
Just sayin’
lumpy,
True. That was sloppy.
It should be David Petraeus.
JeffR
[quote]pookie wrote:
JeffR wrote:
I have a series of questions.
You know your own little rules. First things first: Before we go any further, you have to answer the questions from this past June. There are at least 3 copies of them on the site, you know where to find them. Hint: Look for uranium.
Then you need to swing by your “loon” thread and admit to all how wrong you were. Again.
I’ll meet you back here as soon as you’re done.
Unless your elephantine testicles are completely filled with yellow-belly juice?
Maybe I’ll start my own little betting thread? Who’s betting that Jeffry will be unable to complete this challenge?
[/quote]
I don’t have the time to look it up.
Since you are doing nothing, you could either look it up or I’ll tell you what I actually said.
There is nuclear material that hasn’t been accounted for.
With a regime like saddam’s, that should immediately make someone suspicious.
JeffR
P.S. If you dig up the thread, I’d be happy to point it out again.
[quote]JeffR wrote:
I don’t have the time to look it up.
Since you are doing nothing, you could either look it up or I’ll tell you what I actually said.[/quote]
Of course. You cut and run anytime you’re challenged. This time won’t be different.
[quote]pookie wrote:
JeffR wrote:
I don’t have the time to look it up.
Since you are doing nothing, you could either look it up or I’ll tell you what I actually said.
Of course. You cut and run anytime you’re challenged. This time won’t be different.
[/quote]
Uh, ok.
I think I just answered all the questions.
You?
JeffR
[quote]JeffR wrote:
bota,
You have serious problems.
This would have been a good time to back off your statement of:
"By shooting himself in the ass.
And I`ll never believe otherwise even if he gets a handful of them."
That is not only incredibly revealing, (You want to believe only your talking points), it’s also quite ignorant.
What if 1,000,000,000 soldiers/civilians brought video/documentation/first hand testimony to your door showing that he was indeed under fire and deserved the bronze star? Would you STILL refuse to believe it?
Wait, don’t answer that.
JeffR
[/quote]
I´ll make it easy for you.
I was replying to HH.
His standard post about John Kerry is that he shot himself to get a purple heart.
If you ask him about the other 3 or 4 he got the silence is deafening.
John Kerry has 3 purple hearts, 1 Bronze Star and one Silver Silver Star and yet the Bush camp pissed on his service record.
I decided to use his logic on him to show how mindnumbingly stupid it is.
That you do not seem to get that, shows a lot about you.
Get it now?
[quote]orion wrote:
JeffR wrote:
bota,
You have serious problems.
This would have been a good time to back off your statement of:
"By shooting himself in the ass.
And I`ll never believe otherwise even if he gets a handful of them."
That is not only incredibly revealing, (You want to believe only your talking points), it’s also quite ignorant.
What if 1,000,000,000 soldiers/civilians brought video/documentation/first hand testimony to your door showing that he was indeed under fire and deserved the bronze star? Would you STILL refuse to believe it?
Wait, don’t answer that.
JeffR
I´ll make it easy for you.
I was replying to HH.
His standard post about John Kerry is that he shot himself to get a purple heart.
If you ask him about the other 3 or 4 he got the silence is deafening.
John Kerry has 3 purple hearts, 1 Bronze Star and one Silver Silver Star and yet the Bush camp pissed on his service record.
I decided to use his logic on him to show how mindnumbingly stupid it is.
That you do not seem to get that, shows a lot about you.
Get it now?[/quote]
bota,
You don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt. You haven’t earned it. However, if your post was actually sarcasm (which is very doubtful), it makes more sense.
However, if this is your pathetic attempt at damage control, I hope you develop a painful stye.
JeffR
[quote]pookie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Are any of the Canadians in Afghanistan heroes?
Everyone single one of them.
Nah, they’re each just part of a stupid crowd that believes in fighting for their beliefs, right, Pookie?
Why do you call these proud and honorable men and women “a stupid crowd?” What’s your fucking problem?
You’re home safely hiding behind your little inhaler while they’re being shot at over there. You should die of shame.
[/quote]
Well, aren’t they each just one of the many? How’s that make them heroic?
How does being shot at make someone a hero, Pookie?
How are Canadians in the Afghan hell heroes and Petraeus is not?