A Literal Kick Ass Job?

Hey snipeout

I figure I’ll add my own question to this thread. Momentary hijack (but related, kinda).

What does the training/discipline to become a mil. sniper look like? I’ve always wondered, and I hear stories, but I don’t really put stock in most of them. Just so many kids talking about stuff they don’t have a bleeding clue about. What’s it take to be the best? I was raised by a vet, and got a number of buddies in the service, some overseas right now, but no one that would really be able to answer this one. Since you’ve been a SF vet for a few years, I was wondering if you were one (screen name, I guess) or if you’d talked with any.

Thanks for serving man.

Hijack over.

[quote]kane101nod wrote:
BOSS wrote:
Here is the link for the CIA?s Black-ops program requirements.
That?s rite they list all there job openings on there official web site.

http://www.cia.gov/employment/jobs/core_collector.html

LOL. Are you kidding me? you ACTUALLY think they would ADVERTISE ‘black ops’?! Thank God we don’t have men like you in the service. Not only would the CIA ‘not have any idea what you are speaking about’ concerning the ‘black ops’ but they currently disavow the locations and activities of all NOC agents (the ones ‘off the books’). “Clandestine Services” just refers to the people in the field, ie. the info collectors who now a days work through proxies w/tax payers money. the CIA recruiters CAN NOT stress enough that only the most BASIC GPP is needed, and minimal to ‘no’ weapons skills (much to my chagrin). The closest most field ops agent get to ‘killin’ and combat are the intel officers who work @ prisons, ‘asking’ questions of suspected ‘insurgents’ and those who work in conjunction w/spec ops in the hinterlands of Afghanistan as coordinators of CIA intel (surveillance)and the military’s search and destroy team. The CIA is NOT the movies nor is it Alias. the other option are analysts and desk jobs in DC/Langley and other intel posts, know as the DI (directorate of intel). IMHO, for those hunting the black ops, do special operator work in any branch (CIA, NSA, FBI CT, special forces) and be the “best you can be.” They will find you. Otherwise, this is turning into a pissing contest.[/quote]

I did not really understand your post. So I’m not going to respond to your Questions/Accusations/knowledge or lack of on the said topic.

A CIA recruiter who I talked to pointed the page out to me.

By the way the Black-Ops is a nickname not an official name, kind of like the Green Berets (the official name for the Green Berets is the Army Special Forces)

Enough said!!

[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
Im still in school as a business major (marketing and entreprenuership emphasis) with a minor in economics.

Great as it is…

If I were to join the police force, how long would it take me to make SWAT?

Or are there any FBI training programs that don’t involve joining the military?

How about CIA? NSA?

Something where I can fucking shoot someone? (joking, sorta)[/quote]

If you like to fly, join the United States Marshalls, you can be an air Marshall. Sit in planes all day next to hot chicks, and get the oppurtunity to fuck somebody up with some close quarters combat if the need arises. Hey, and you get stewardess’s, everyone likes stewardess’s

[quote]StevenF wrote:
wufwugy wrote:
i went to high school with a guy who said the FBI kept buggin him to work for them.

ha ha I get it, that’s good. [/quote]

what’s even funnier is that i told him he was full of shit, so he showed me an FBI application they kept sending him. it was sad.

If you really want “kick ass”, then sign up for ROTC, get an active duty commission and become an Army officer like I did. I GAROWNTEE you’ll go to Iraq and get a chance to shoot at someone. Or at least get shot at by them.

Not to mention, you might actually learn a few lessons about service to your nation and sacrificing your comfort and safety for the greater good. I’m proud of my time in combat, and it has nothing to do with how many people my platoon killed.

Anyway, having experience as a military officer will put you way ahead of the rest of the applicant pool. Especially if you go into special ops. I have three friends who were former Army Captains and applied for the FBI. Guess what. They all made it! I

t’s not realistic to come straight out of college as a 22 or 23 year old kid and expect the FBI, NSA, CIA, etc. to select you. Unless you have a very specialized degree and speak a foriegn language that is in high demand (Farsi, Arabic, Chinese). They want experience and maturity. And someone spouting off about how they want to shoot people is not their ideal candidate.

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Have you ever fired a hand gun or rifle?

If not, start practicing, it’s sooo much harder than it looks. I’ve been messing around with a 40 caliber at the local range and I must say…I suck. With a .22 I’m damn good, but as soon as I upped the power…

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[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Hey snipeout

I figure I’ll add my own question to this thread. Momentary hijack (but related, kinda).

What does the training/discipline to become a mil. sniper look like? I’ve always wondered, and I hear stories, but I don’t really put stock in most of them. Just so many kids talking about stuff they don’t have a bleeding clue about. What’s it take to be the best? I was raised by a vet, and got a number of buddies in the service, some overseas right now, but no one that would really be able to answer this one. Since you’ve been a SF vet for a few years, I was wondering if you were one (screen name, I guess) or if you’d talked with any.

Thanks for serving man.

Hijack over.[/quote]

Army sniper school is the hardest school the army has. It has the highest drop out/failure rate. If you can’t shoot, spot, conceal and countersnipe nothing else matters. Heart(and map reading) can get you through sfas.

[quote]snipeout wrote:
Aragorn wrote:
Hey snipeout

I figure I’ll add my own question to this thread. Momentary hijack (but related, kinda).

What does the training/discipline to become a mil. sniper look like? I’ve always wondered, and I hear stories, but I don’t really put stock in most of them. Just so many kids talking about stuff they don’t have a bleeding clue about. What’s it take to be the best? I was raised by a vet, and got a number of buddies in the service, some overseas right now, but no one that would really be able to answer this one. Since you’ve been a SF vet for a few years, I was wondering if you were one (screen name, I guess) or if you’d talked with any.

Thanks for serving man.

Hijack over.

Army sniper school is the hardest school the army has. It has the highest drop out/failure rate. If you can’t shoot, spot, conceal and countersnipe nothing else matters. Heart(and map reading) can get you through sfas.[/quote]

Hey Snipeout,

What group were you with? I did 7 years in 2nd BN 5th SFG before I went to OCS and joined the “Big Army” as a Sapper. I only went to the weak-ass on-post sniper course that they had at Campbell. But it was still pretty tough for me because of that damn KIMs game. My memory is for shit.

Later bro
Drew