9/11 Inside Job

A former chief economist in the Labor Department during President Bush’s first term now believes the official story about the collapse of the WTC is ‘bogus,’ saying it is more likely that a controlled demolition destroyed the Twin Towers and adjacent Building No. 7.

“If demolition destroyed three steel skyscrapers at the World Trade Center on 9/11, then the case for an ‘inside job’ and a government attack on America would be compelling,” said Morgan Reynolds, Ph.D, a former member of the Bush team who also served as director of the Criminal Justice Center at the National Center for Policy Analysis headquartered in Dallas, TX.

Reynolds, now a professor emeritus at Texas A&M University, also believes it’s ‘next to impossible’ that 19 Arab Terrorists alone outfoxed the mighty U.S. military, adding the scientific conclusions about the WTC collapse may hold the key to the entire mysterious plot behind 9/11.

“It is hard to exaggerate the importance of a scientific debate over the cause(s) of the collapse of the twin towers and building 7,” said Reynolds this week from his offices at Texas A&M. "If the official wisdom on the collapses is wrong, as I believe it is, then policy based on such erroneous engineering analysis is not likely to be correct either. The government’s collapse theory is highly vulnerable on its own terms. Only professional demolition appears to account for the full range of facts associated with the collapse of the three buildings.

“More importantly, momentous political and social consequences would follow if impartial observers concluded that professionals imploded the WTC. Meanwhile, the job of scientists, engineers and impartial researchers everywhere is to get the scientific and engineering analysis of 9/11 right.”

However, Reynolds said "getting it right in today’s security state’ remains challenging because he claims explosives and structural experts have been intimidated in their analyses of the collapses of 9/11.

From the beginning, the Bush administration claimed that burning jet fuel caused the collapse of the towers. Although many independent investigators have disagreed, they have been hard pressed to disprove the government theory since most of the evidence was removed by FEMA prior to independent investigation.

Critics claim the Bush administration has tried to cover-up the evidence and the recent 9/11 Commission has failed to address the major evidence contradicting the official version of 9/11.

Some facts demonstrating the flaws in the government jet fuel theory include:

– Photos showing people walking around in the hole in the North Tower where 10,000 gallons of jet fuel supposedly was burning…

–When the South Tower was hit, most of the North Tower’s flames had already vanished, burning for only 16 minutes, making it relatively easy to contain and control without a total collapse.

–The fire did not grow over time, probably because it quickly ran out of fuel and was suffocating, indicating without added explosive devices the firs could have been easily controlled.

–FDNY fire fighters still remain under a tight government gag order to not discuss the explosions they heard, felt and saw. FAA personnel are also under a similar 9/11 gag order.

–Even the flawed 9/11 Commission Report acknowledges that “none of the [fire] chiefs present believed that a total collapse of either tower was possible.”

– Fire had never before caused steel-frame buildings to collapse except for the three buildings on 9/11, nor has fire collapsed any steel high rise since 9/11.

– The fires, especially in the South Tower and WTC-7, were relatively small.

– WTC-7 was unharmed by an airplane and had only minor fires on the seventh and twelfth floors of this 47-story steel building yet it collapsed in less than 10 seconds.

– WTC-5 and WTC-6 had raging fires but did not collapse despite much thinner steel beams.

– In a PBS documentary, Larry Silverstein, the WTC leaseholder, told the fire department commander on 9/11 about WTC-7 that. “may be the smartest thing to do is pull it,” slang for demolish it.

– It’s difficult if not impossible for hydrocarbon fires like those fed by jet fuel (kerosene) to raise the temperature of steel close to melting.

Despite the numerous holes in the government story, the Bush administration has brushed aside or basically ignored any and all critics. Mainstream experts, speaking for the administration, offer a theory essentially arguing that an airplane impact weakened each structure and an intense fire thermally weakened structural components, causing buckling failures while allowing the upper floors to pancake onto the floors below.

One who supports the official account is Thomas Eager, professor of materials engineering and engineering systems at MIT. He argues that the collapse occurred by the extreme heat from the fires, causing the loss of loading-bearing capacity on the structural frame.

Eagar points out the steel in the towers could have collapsed only if heated to the point where it “lost 80 percent of its strength,” or around 1,300 degrees Fahrenheit. Critics claim his theory is flawed since the fires did not appear to be intense and widespread enough to reach such high temperatures.

Other experts supporting the official story claim the impact of the airplanes, not the heat, weakened the entire structural system of the towers, but critics contend the beams on floors 94-98 did not appear severely weakened, much less the entire structural system.

Further complicating the matter, hard evidence to fully substantiate either theory since evidence is lacking due to FEMA’s quick removal of the structural steel before it could be analyzed. Even though the criminal code requires that crime scene evidence be kept for forensic analysis, FEMA had it destroyed or shipped overseas before a serious investigation could take place.

And even more doubt is cast over why FEMA acted so swiftly since coincidentally officials had arrived the day before the 9/11 attacks at New York’s Pier 29 to conduct a war game exercise, named “Tripod II.”

Besides FEMA’s quick removal of the debris, authorities considered the steel quite valuable as New York City officials had every debris truck tracked on GPS and even fired one truck driver who took an unauthorized lunch break.

In a detailed analysis just released supporting the controlled demolition theory, Reynolds presents a compelling case.

“First, no steel-framed skyscraper, even engulfed in flames hour after hour, had ever collapsed before. Suddenly, three stunning collapses occur within a few city blocks on the same day, two allegedly hit by aircraft, the third not,” said Reynolds. "These extraordinary collapses after short-duration minor fires made it all the more important to preserve the evidence, mostly steel girders, to study what had happened.

“On fire intensity, consider this benchmark: A 1991 FEMA report on Philadelphia’s Meridian Plaza fire said that the fire was so energetic that ‘beams and girders sagged and twisted, but despite this extraordinary exposure, the columns continued to support their loads without obvious damage.’ Such an intense fire with consequent sagging and twisting steel beams bears no resemblance to what we observed at the WTC.”

After considering both sides of the 9/11 debate and after thoroughly sifting through all the available material, Reynolds concludes the government story regarding all four plane crashes on 9/11 remains highly suspect.

“In fact, the government has failed to produce significant wreckage from any of the four alleged airliners that fateful day. The familiar photo of the Flight 93 crash site in Pennsylvania shows no fuselage, engine or anything recognizable as a plane, just a smoking hole in the ground,” said Reynolds. “Photographers reportedly were not allowed near the hole. Neither the FBI nor the National Transportation Safety Board have investigated or produced any report on the alleged airliner crashes.”

jlesk,

Oh, my God!!!

Did you seriously just post this?

I’d say “welcome to the forum” but, in your case, I’d be lying.

Who did you vote for in the recent election?

JeffR

While this is a troubling read, I find it hard to believe anyone would think they could get away with such a thing in this day and age.

If something like this were to be true, it would be the biggest scandal on the planet and completely shift the american psyche and it’s relationship with government.

What the hell does a “former chief economist” know about the structural integrity of skyscrapers?

Source please?

[quote]JeffR wrote:
jlesk,

Oh, my God!!!

Did you seriously just post this?

I’d say “welcome to the forum” but, in your case, I’d be lying.

Who did you vote for in the recent election?

JeffR[/quote]

Welcome to the forum. It seems some of us (see above) are a little quick to jump the gun, forming political opinions and struggling to keep an objective mindset while reading an article that presents two theories.

It was an interesting read, but I agree with Vroom, that it would be quite ballsy to think something like this could actually get pulled off.

It was interesting though…

-Nate

This, quite honestly, may be the most ridiculous item to come form 9/11 that will ever be seen.

What does this guy base these allegations on? Does he have source material?

It’s not enough to suggest this as truth because some don’t want to openly discuss some events. I just can’t fathom the possiblity that any of this has any truth basis.

I’ve been wrong before, but this is so out there. WOW!

I used to live about 4 blocks from the WTC site. I heard the second plane crashing into it. Watched the second tower come down.

It wasn’t controlled. It crumbled from the top. A controlled blast would have to cut the beams at ground level and then lift the building. That’s how a bldg. is blown. That’s not what happened.

Gag order or not. No NYC firefighter or cop would have kept his mouth shut if one of his brothers went down over this, let alone the hundreds that died.
Hate the government or not, it doesn’t kill 3000 of it’s citizens for this type of silly reason.

This guy is a publicity seeking asshole. He is trying to link stories together to make up a story.

It’s a disgrace to the thousands that died.

While I’m not convinced that the September 11th attacks were an inside job (who in the American defense industry and political establishment would possibly stand to benefit from a massive military mobilization?), I would like to see a more detailed and open analysis of the actual collapse of the towers. The holes in the official story (while NOT AT ALL proof of George W. Bush’s evil plot to steal our freedom and put us all into cages at Gitmo while personally flushing our Korans down the White House toilet) are disturbing. Are New York firefighters and FAA personnel under gag order to keep the terrorists from finding out that their plan worked? Is asking questions about the structural integrity of the towers the same as aiding the terrorists?

While I’m sure that these allegations and engineering questions can be refuted with a simple dismissal of the writer’s political leanings, I’m still interested in seeing them disproved in a more traditional, factual way.

With all the cameras amd other eyewitnesses to the whole scene (not everyone present at the scene is under a gag order) someone would have noticed a small thing like demolitions explosions going off. I’ve seen shows about the demolitions industry and getting a building that size to topple from a demolitions crew would have taken a sizable amount of planning and pre-placement of explosives. Someone who worked in the WTC building would have noticed something like explosives being stratigically placed.

The explosions would have also been visible to the world through all the cameras trained on the scene. No explosions were seen before the collapse, it simply collapsed on itself from where the planes hit it. Plain and simple logic (which most liberals lack) shoots this story down in 5 seconds flat. And what does a chief economist know about demolitions?

I worked three blocks south of WTC that day. I heard the second plane. My best friend who worked at WFC was standing outside and saw the second airplane bank and disappear into the tower. I watched people hang from window sills as they decided between burning alive and jumping to their deaths. I watched the south tower buckle and collapse.

To even post something like this is disturbing. To believe it is mind blowing. You can come up with whatever crazy theory you want for who was responsible for 9/11 and why. But don’t tell me is was a controlled demolotion.

What a joke.

Scientific evidence from professionals, please.

[quote]bikejames wrote:
With all the cameras[/quote]

Hell yeah there are a lot of cameras. I’d imagine there would be even more in Washington D.C. yet there is not one single frame of footage (the lone security camera at the Pentagon doesn’t count because there’s nothing recognizable in the 4 frames) of a plane nor one single photo. Doesn’t that seem odd?

I dont believe its an “inside” job, but I believe there is an immense amount being covered up. Just like the Oklahoma City bombing.

Holy Crap.

One woners if Gore were the COC at the time, if there would be this much scrutiny over something that was obviously not under the control of the Tri-Lateral commission, or the FreeMasons, or any of the other tin-foil hatted conspircay theorist whack jobs.

There has been more second guessing, and third guessing, and attempts at scapegoating over this than there ever was over Waco, which was an outright act of war by the United States Gov’t on its citizens.

Nate Green wrote:

"Welcome to the forum. It seems some of us (see above) are a little quick to jump the gun, forming political opinions and struggling to keep an objective mindset while reading an article that presents two theories.

It was interesting though…

-Nate"

nate, the Earth is composed of tissue paper. There is no other substance present. I heard this from a guy who had a friend who slept with a hotel worker who heard a person stating this.

News flash: that article’s main premise is so ridiculous that it doesn’t warrant a serious response. I refuse to counter it with logic. It doesn’t deserve it.

JeffR

TO preface my next statements i would like to say that I am an independent voter and VERY pro-america with a long lineage of servicemen in my family (my g-dad was at pearl harbor on dec 7). i love this country more than anything.

BUT some lies cannot be denied as much as we want them to be true (i.e. Kennedy assassination).

I think the focus here needs to be less on the twin towers and more on the pentagon strike. i have spent about 2 weeks of my life researching the conspiracy theories surrounding 911 and although there are certain things about the WTC towers that can be argued, there are many more about the pentagon.

Here are some of the highlights:
-little to no actual plane wreckage found at the site
-lawn and industrial cable spools remained undamaged in spot where plane was said to hit.
-damage to building was not consistent with reported flight path.
-no street lights were chopped down as suppossed plane approached the pentagon (they should have considering a plane of that size’s wingspan)
-FBI immediately seized surveilance tapes from local gas station that would have shown what really happened. they still havent been released to this day.

there is much more to read about this but to whet your appetite give this flash movie a view. not saying it is completely true but this will make you think twice. it sure did for me.

http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php#Preloader

[quote]JeffR wrote:
jlesk,

Oh, my God!!!

Did you seriously just post this?

I’d say “welcome to the forum” but, in your case, I’d be lying.

Who did you vote for in the recent election?

JeffR[/quote]

What is with you and logical fallacies?

Ask this person pointed question.

So if someone voted for someone other than Bush they can not voice an opinion (factual or misguided)?

The only way I could see the government getting away with something like this is the plea to emotion.

I am not stating my position on this story, but we have to consider that the amount of deaths is a huge advantage to the government. We can see it happening right here, no one could fathom that our government could kill that many of its own citizens. I’d be surprised to see a significant amount of people from NYC that would be willing to admit that they could believe the gov’t would do something like this.

If this really is the case, we won’t get to the bottom of it for many many years. The mere thought of 9/11 still stings in many minds; even mine and I was at high school in Boca Raton, FL when it happened. Sadistic-to-say, I find it “fun” to entertain this idea.

We have to look at the outside stuff though. No one has explained how we got Osama Bin Laden involved. Sure it could have been an actor, but no one has turned up that evidece/theory. How will it end? Will we just never find him?

If the whole plot was to go after terrorists, why are we going after Saddam?

If the whole plot was to go after Saddam, I think Bush could have won over his war cry with the intelligence used to “icriminate” Saddam in the first place. I am no conspiracy expert, but it would make more sense to present the evidence and plead for a war. That way if you didn’t win them over you could toss the 3 buildings and plead with, “I told you so.”

It is interesting to think about, but thats about where I draw the line.

Part of what is fueling the conspiracy theorist is an event of this magnitude was perdicted in a memo drafted by Paul Wolfowitz at PNAC and signed my numerous members of Bush’s cabinent.

I don’t buy it myself but conspiracies happen all the time. A conspiracy is when two or more people join in a secret agreement to do an unlawful or wrongful act or an act which becomes unlawful as a result of the secret agreement.

Good point on the Waco fiasco. If ever there was a reason for impeachment, the assault on the Branch Davidians was it. However, I’m still curious if there are any architects/civil engineers on the forum who can debunk the theory of controlled collapse. Is the author completely off-base with the assertions about heat/structural integrity? I realize that cooler heads will prevail here and the discussion will be safely stifled in partisan name calling.

Still, these “theories” only scratch the surface of the mysteries surrounding the September 11th attacks. One final note, with regards to cameras at the site, whatever happened with the cheering Israeli’s who were taping the attack or Mossad’s warning two days prior? Those stories got buried real quick.