Any1 here actually been fat? I don’t mean bulked up and cut i mean genuinely fat?
I don’t this guy can make it without pharmaceutical help.
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]RampantBadger wrote:
Why we get fat by Gary Taubes or check out one of his lectures on youtube[/quote]
implying he’s not eating 10k+ kcal of pure shit per day.
The dude is 700 pounds. I would BET his diets failed because he couldn’t stick to them and continually relapsed back into his old habits … not because he was eating 1500kcal/d with ~40% of it being whole wheat.
He needs professional help - someone who has [u]actually helped people get thin[/i] as well as someone who can address the psychological aspects that are very likely driving this.[/quote]
He needs a kick in the balls and a shove off the bed. At least make him work to climb in and be lazy. Nothing like a 700 lb. “get up” and kicks in the nuts.
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
Any1 here actually been fat? I don’t mean bulked up and cut i mean genuinely fat?[/quote]
How fat is fat?
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]RampantBadger wrote:
Why we get fat by Gary Taubes or check out one of his lectures on youtube[/quote]
implying he’s not eating 10k+ kcal of pure shit per day.
The dude is 700 pounds. I would BET his diets failed because he couldn’t stick to them and continually relapsed back into his old habits … not because he was eating 1500kcal/d with ~40% of it being whole wheat.
He needs professional help - someone who has [u]actually helped people get thin[/i] as well as someone who can address the psychological aspects that are very likely driving this.[/quote]
He needs a kick in the balls and a shove off the bed. At least make him work to climb in and be lazy. Nothing like a 700 lb. “get up” and kicks in the nuts.[/quote]
Your an idiot.
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]RampantBadger wrote:
Why we get fat by Gary Taubes or check out one of his lectures on youtube[/quote]
implying he’s not eating 10k+ kcal of pure shit per day.
The dude is 700 pounds. I would BET his diets failed because he couldn’t stick to them and continually relapsed back into his old habits … not because he was eating 1500kcal/d with ~40% of it being whole wheat.
He needs professional help - someone who has [u]actually helped people get thin[/i] as well as someone who can address the psychological aspects that are very likely driving this.[/quote]
He needs a kick in the balls and a shove off the bed. At least make him work to climb in and be lazy. Nothing like a 700 lb. “get up” and kicks in the nuts.[/quote]
Your an idiot. [/quote]
YOU are (short form for the non-retarded: you’re) an idiot.
As with any addiction, one has the sole power to break it. Whether it’s food, alcohol or heroin. You need the will-power to kick the habit.
That’s very sad. I hope that guy gets the help he’s asking for and that he doesn’t change his mind when the going gets tough.
[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]RampantBadger wrote:
Why we get fat by Gary Taubes or check out one of his lectures on youtube[/quote]
implying he’s not eating 10k+ kcal of pure shit per day.
The dude is 700 pounds. I would BET his diets failed because he couldn’t stick to them and continually relapsed back into his old habits … not because he was eating 1500kcal/d with ~40% of it being whole wheat.
He needs professional help - someone who has actually helped people get thin as well as someone who can address the psychological aspects that are very likely driving this.[/quote]
He needs a kick in the balls and a shove off the bed. At least make him work to climb in and be lazy. Nothing like a 700 lb. “get up” and kicks in the nuts.[/quote]
Your an idiot. [/quote]
YOU are (short form for the non-retarded: you’re) an idiot.
As with any addiction, one has the sole power to break it. Whether it’s food, alcohol or heroin. You need the will-power to kick the habit.[/quote]
All of you idiots are idiots for not fixing the underlining.
Look, this is a 700 pound person. He needed a forklift to get out of his house.
These people have been COMPLETELY sedentary for YEARS. Even asking him to “get up” is asking him to wrench 500+ lbs off the ground from a completely disadvantageous position. He has so much fat his mobility is shot even if he HAD the strength to do so… and it ain’t a solid, symmetrical and controllable barbell here, so most peoples’ impressions of the difficulty involved would be terribly misguided. Slap that kind of awkward mass on anyone here and it would be crazy to do.
Forget a kick in the balls, he probably wouldn’t be able to get up with a cattle prod stuck in his ass, a gun to his head and the first real pussy he has ever seen waiting for him on a silver platter 5 feet away.
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]RampantBadger wrote:
Why we get fat by Gary Taubes or check out one of his lectures on youtube[/quote]
implying he’s not eating 10k+ kcal of pure shit per day.
The dude is 700 pounds. I would BET his diets failed because he couldn’t stick to them and continually relapsed back into his old habits … not because he was eating 1500kcal/d with ~40% of it being whole wheat.
He needs professional help - someone who has actually helped people get thin as well as someone who can address the psychological aspects that are very likely driving this.[/quote]
He needs a kick in the balls and a shove off the bed. At least make him work to climb in and be lazy. Nothing like a 700 lb. “get up” and kicks in the nuts.[/quote]
Your an idiot. [/quote]
YOU are (short form for the non-retarded: you’re) an idiot.
As with any addiction, one has the sole power to break it. Whether it’s food, alcohol or heroin. You need the will-power to kick the habit.[/quote]
All of you idiots are idiots for not fixing the underlining.
Look, this is a 700 pound person. He needed a forklift to get out of his house.
These people have been COMPLETELY sedentary for YEARS. Even asking him to “get up” is asking him to wrench 500+ lbs off the ground from a completely disadvantageous position. He has so much fat his mobility is shot even if he HAD the strength to do so… and it ain’t a solid, symmetrical and controllable barbell here, so most peoples’ impressions of the difficulty involved would be terribly misguided. Slap that kind of awkward mass on anyone here and it would be crazy to do.
Forget a kick in the balls, he probably wouldn’t be able to get up with a cattle prod stuck in his ass, a gun to his head and the first real pussy he has ever seen waiting for him on a silver platter 5 feet away.[/quote] kick him hard enough and he will figure it out even if it takes weeks to get one leg moving. Consistent, hard kicks in the balls are where its at. You have to make his reality worse than his alternative or he will never accept help. Kick his balls.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Consistent, hard kicks in the balls are where its at.[/quote]
implying it would be that easy to find them in the first place.
How would you do it, sense of smell or something? Do you smell sack sweat like sharks do blood in the water? Or is grabbing random knob pretty much muscle memory for you at this point?
jk
But seriously, how would you do it?
wonder how much he can deadlift
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
Any1 here actually been fat? I don’t mean bulked up and cut i mean genuinely fat?[/quote]
Yep. 17 years ago,315lbs 5’8" of pure blubber. Diabetic,high blood pressure,horrible lipid profile. Now,180lbs,9-10% bodyfat on average lower in the summer,no diabetes,blood pressure is normal,no health issues,no meds. You have to make a choice mentally to change.
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Consistent, hard kicks in the balls are where its at.[/quote]
implying it would be that easy to find them in the first place.
How would you do it, sense of smell or something? Do you smell sack sweat like sharks do blood in the water? Or is grabbing random knob pretty much muscle memory for you at this point?
jk
But seriously, how would you do it?[/quote]
With my foot. The top of my foot to be exact.
My balls are between my legs, in my crotch. I assume his are too.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Duwatsrt wrote:
[quote]simpstr1 wrote:
My question is why did he wait so long before asking for help? you know when you’re a healthy weight and when you’re not. I hope they do help him but he has to want help - really want help.
[/quote]
This is the exact question I always ask when I hear these stories. It isn’t as if you wake up one day and realize you are 700 friggin lbs! I know I start to feel like crap when I’m 10 lbs. over. I know there has to be deep psychological issues involved in this but I have a hard time being sympathetic. It is much easier for me to feel for the kid that does wake up one day and has cancer. The kid didn’t do this to himself and my heart goes out to these people. Some slob that can’t stop eating or drinking or smoking or whatever and gets sick because of it, it sucks to be him but he/she put themselves in that position. [/quote]
I think you have many different categories.
For instance, you have:
-Fat guy who secretly loves stuffing himself until his shirt buttons pop off at night because it is part of a sexual fetish (there actually seem to be tons of these…no pun intended…so don’t feel sorry for every extremely obese person you meet).
-Fat guy who has some mental disorder that causes him to rely on food for comfort despite the damage being done yet also seems to be accompanied by a lot of denial in order to let it get that out of hand.
-fat guy with true metabolic disorder or drug related weight gain.
-Fat guy who is trying to get disability so he can stay at home and eat even more all day by us paying him to do it.
Also, I think environment factors in heavily now. If everyone around you is fat, you will likely feel less need to avoid that cake…because who cares anymore?
I have gone entire days without seeing a person who was not either obese or close to it. It’s like the Sahara only the sand is adipose and cheesefries.[/quote]
you forgot fat guy-competitive athlete that takes too much dextrose with their protein post-workout :))))
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]RampantBadger wrote:
Why we get fat by Gary Taubes or check out one of his lectures on youtube[/quote]
implying he’s not eating 10k+ kcal of pure shit per day.
The dude is 700 pounds. I would BET his diets failed because he couldn’t stick to them and continually relapsed back into his old habits … not because he was eating 1500kcal/d with ~40% of it being whole wheat.
He needs professional help - someone who has actually helped people get thin as well as someone who can address the psychological aspects that are very likely driving this.[/quote]
He needs a kick in the balls and a shove off the bed. At least make him work to climb in and be lazy. Nothing like a 700 lb. “get up” and kicks in the nuts.[/quote]
Your an idiot. [/quote]
YOU are (short form for the non-retarded: you’re) an idiot.
As with any addiction, one has the sole power to break it. Whether it’s food, alcohol or heroin. You need the will-power to kick the habit.[/quote]
All of you idiots are idiots for not fixing the underlining.
Look, this is a 700 pound person. He needed a forklift to get out of his house.
These people have been COMPLETELY sedentary for YEARS. Even asking him to “get up” is asking him to wrench 500+ lbs off the ground from a completely disadvantageous position. He has so much fat his mobility is shot even if he HAD the strength to do so… and it ain’t a solid, symmetrical and controllable barbell here, so most peoples’ impressions of the difficulty involved would be terribly misguided. Slap that kind of awkward mass on anyone here and it would be crazy to do.
Forget a kick in the balls, he probably wouldn’t be able to get up with a cattle prod stuck in his ass, a gun to his head and the first real pussy he has ever seen waiting for him on a silver platter 5 feet away.[/quote]
great post.
When you see an extremely overweight person, like 450+lbs or whatever, you have to realize, they are that way cause of emotional issues. Food is their choice of drug to illeviate or try to anyways, their emotional pain.
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
When you see an extremely overweight person, like 450+lbs or whatever, you have to realize, they are that way cause of emotional issues. Food is their choice of drug to illeviate or try to anyways, their emotional pain. [/quote]
Yes. They have to find a substitute for the food. One has to get satisfaction somewhere - especially when one is used to getting it. Taking me as an example, if I play video games, I don’t need to masturbate and vice versa; If I chew nicotine gum, I don’t need alcohol; fast food vs. candy - and so on.
I think therapy would also help. It would help to get the mind-set on the right track and figure out what to do next, step by step. These people need empathy. I’m not saying that people should pity them but talk to them. That would help them achieve the willpower needed to change their habits. Of course, the final step is always the one, one has to take oneself.
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
When you see an extremely overweight person, like 450+lbs or whatever, you have to realize, they are that way cause of emotional issues. Food is their choice of drug to illeviate or try to anyways, their emotional pain. [/quote]
What do people with emotional issues do in Somalia or Peru?
[quote]SKELAC wrote:
[quote]roguevampire wrote:
When you see an extremely overweight person, like 450+lbs or whatever, you have to realize, they are that way cause of emotional issues. Food is their choice of drug to illeviate or try to anyways, their emotional pain. [/quote]
What do people with emotional issues do in Somalia or Peru?[/quote]