[quote]Lowe-1 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
LOL. So, what is is that you’re doing, while looking in the mirror, other than driving to another country to fly? Are you fucking serious? If my company sends me on a trip, like many other working people, we do not have the option to “opt out”. You’re being ridiculous now and you’ve completely ignored my post about the Israeli airport.
On the one hand, we’re “faggots” for relinquishing our rights (yet in the same post you felt the need to add “sic” to an awkward sentence by me - precious really.) but I’ve illustrated that rights are more infringed in other countries - they profile and do searches.
So which is it? Do you have a point other than the traveling public that doesn’t want to go to Mexico (and oh yea, you have TONS of rights in Mexico lmfao) are faggots or, do we need to give up some rights?
What exactly is your point?>[/quote]
I’ve never been grouped, molested, or even been made to remove shoes in any airport outside of the UK or US. In many countries that face a far greater risk/threat of terrorism than the US does. Why? Because they apparently have the experts neither of those has, and with no seeming agenda of turning their nations into a prison.
Yes, average joes such as yourself have no real recourse, which is why you should be angrier about the situation. But apparently you are quite docile enough to “go along to get along”.
I didn’t respond to your Israel post? So? What’s with this hero worship of the IDF and their state security services? Have you ever trained/deployed or had any relevant experience with either? I have, and last time I checked they put their pants on just like everyone else, and didn’t have this near mythical ability to be counter terror experts more so than anyone else with some common fucking sense.
But whatever helps you sleep at night I guess. I suppose I’d be scrambling for justification too if I didn’t have issues with strangers grouping my kids.[/quote]
Let me start by saying that since you were the first to invoke the use of “sic” in an internet post of all places, I’ll point out that it’s “groping”, not “grouping”. But I digress.
Do you have a point here? Because if you do, you have failed to articulate it. What you have done, is engaged in what apparently is the style of PWI - fallacious arguments. Strawmen and now, I “worship” the IDF because I illustrated a point by referencing their procedures against ours. Ignore the point, and misdirect by claiming I “worship” them. LOL. Good one.
Next, you sound like you’re quite the average joe yourself. Apparently, you’re willing to drive over the border to fly. Sounds to me like you enjoy no special status.
You claim that other countries have better security without “turning their countries into a prison”. My perception is that their citizens have LESS liberties and that those security forces to profile and engage in searches when they deem necessary - as illustrated by my prior example. I’ve asked you once before, and you responded with a non-sequitur, whether it was an issue of surrendering liberties. You followed with some cliche about it not being that “black and white”, but you failed to offer anything concrete other than, apparently you haven’t had to remove your shoes in foreign airports. Brilliant! Apparently, deciphering your posts, the answer lies within not having travelers remove their shoes! See how the fallacious approach works?
Scrambling for justification? Reading comprehension fail sir. In this thread, I have said that, I found it a bit excessive, that I did not believe it was done in a harmful way (your histrionic reference to groping aside) and, that I support profiling as effective policing.
And since you imply to intend to flee this country, it sounds to me like you’re every bit the “average joe” as the rest of us.