51 with Low T

I recently had my T levels checked and tryed andogel,which did little.Now im taking injections E O W @ 200 a shot. Ive also ordered extra to make it weekly.I was thinking 200 first week,100,the 2ND and so on.i also have clomid,and was wondering if i should take it on my lesser weeks?I would like to see some SMALL results for this,am i wasteing money and time?

keep your dosage constant as it will make dialing it on easier. So start off with 50mg twice a week and see how that goes. You can always bump it up if need be. Monitor E2 levels and if needed dose adex. If your nuts start to shrink and you want to prevent this think about HCG.

Drop the clomid and opt for HCG instead.

I assume you have been diagnosed primary? If not and in fact secondary you might fair well on hcg monotheraphy

Thanks my primary wanted me to take 2oo mg E O W he says thats all the fda will allow. im taking it into my own hands with the extra.i have no idea how long ive been low,all i know is sence ive started on this T thing ive noticed some benefits ,mental and physical.im way past my prime ,but better late than never,im still hitting gym 4 days a week,and probably stronger than when i was 30. not looking to b huge but definitly looking to feel it . i already have clomid 100 @ 50mg do you think by dropping down to 100 cc per wk and two 50 mgs might give me what im looking for? my nd was 250 id like to see it up to 1000 lab test in 2 months .thanks again

[quote]lsp1 wrote:
Thanks my primary wanted me to take 2oo mg E O W he says thats all the fda will allow. im taking it into my own hands with the extra.i have no idea how long ive been low,all i know is sence ive started on this T thing ive noticed some benefits ,mental and physical.im way past my prime ,but better late than never,im still hitting gym 4 days a week,and probably stronger than when i was 30. not looking to b huge but definitly looking to feel it . i already have clomid 100 @ 50mg do you think by dropping down to 100 cc per wk and two 50 mgs might give me what im looking for? my nd was 250 id like to see it up to 1000 lab test in 2 months .thanks again[/quote]

100mg a week is just a starting dose to see where that puts you. If you are still on the low side you can bump it up to say 150mg a week or 125mg a week and see what that does. Everyone metabolises it differently. While the bigger guys usually need more mg per week than the smaller guys to achieve some what similar values.

Thanks again

I used clomid last summer to supplement gel the doc had prescribed. On the gel my T level was mid-ranged and I wanted it higher. Clomid did the trick for a while. I felt great for a few weeks but started noticing side-effects. Checked my E2 and it was 63. Unless you are experienced or well-versed with Clomid, my advice is proceed with caution.

Most docs are idiots when it comes to these things. You need to know more than your doc. You have to manage your own healthcare.

Please read the stickies. The tribal knowledge is there.

Inject 50mg twice a week to keep levels steadier, you will feel better. You can inject IM or SC with #29 1/2" 0.5ml insulin syringes and in most States, you can get those without a prescription.

When you inject every other week, your levels are all over the place. So your lab work is useless as the lab results are then driven by lab timing. If you inject twice a week or EOD, your lab results will represent your hormone status.

You may feel better with Nolvadex. I always caution against Clomid.

A SERM [nolvadex, clomid], will typically increase E2 levels. To reduce E2 levels, you need Arimidex/an anastrozole.