Could Roberts have voted as to not look like some hack activist judge, as some might have accused him of ?
I am starting to wonder, did he do this because, perhaps he didn’t want to look like a dick to the entire country ?
Also, because this was passed as a tax, it can be undone by a SIMPLE majority in Congress (51 votes in the Senate), and a Prezzy to sign that.
This can be undone by a Romney win, and 4 Senate seats going to the GOP.
Watch the Tea Party come out in full force because of this.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Could Roberts have voted as to not look like some hack activist judge, as some might have accused him of ?
I am starting to wonder, did he do this because, perhaps he didn’t want to look like a dick to the entire country ?
Also, because this was passed as a tax, it can be undone by a SIMPLE majority in Congress (51 votes in the Senate), and a Prezzy to sign that.
This can be undone by a Romney win, and 4 Senate seats going to the GOP.
Watch the Tea Party come out in full force because of this. [/quote]
I think Romney is thanking his Gods on his knees.
If you really, really wanted to energize the Republican base while the Democrats remained more or less meh about it, you would have to do exactly what just happened.
Romney made a few hundred thousand in campaign contributions after this verdict.
[quote]orion wrote:
Romney made a few hundred thousand in campaign contributions after this verdict.
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As reported this morning, that figure is actually in the millions.
Millions overnight, millions.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
Romney made a few hundred thousand in campaign contributions after this verdict.
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As reported this morning, that figure is actually in the millions.
Millions overnight, millions.[/quote]
3.2 millions in the first 11 hours.
O_O
I think I just heard a bugle.
Some thoughts:
There us no question that this decision has furthur galvanized the Conservative
base. I see record numbers in November.
I saw a full-hour interview with Rubio a couple of days ago. Something he said is something that I’ve said on this site for some time; the GOP, especially if they win a majority in the House, Senate AND win the White House; can no longer be the “Just-Say-No/Opposition Party”; they have to govern and come up with real alternatives.
The cost of Medical Care will bury this Country, (especially as the Boomer Generation continues to join the ranks of the elderly and retired). While the Affordable Care Act was questionable in it’s ability to reign in cost (VERY questionable, in fact)…merely repealing it will not control those cost; they will merely continue in their current upward trajectory.
“Just-Say-No” will not solve the problem any more than “Hope-and-Change” will.
Mufasa
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Some thoughts:
There us no question that this decision has furthur galvanized the Conservative
base. I see record numbers in November.
I saw a full-hour interview with Rubio a couple of days ago. Something he said is something that I’ve said on this site for some time; the GOP, especially if they win a majority in the House, Senate AND win the White House; can no longer be the “Just-Say-No/Opposition Party”; they have to govern and come up with real alternatives.
The cost of Medical Care will bury this Country, (especially as the Boomer Generation continues to join the ranks of the elderly and retired). While the Affordable Care Act was questionable in it’s ability to reign in cost (VERY questionable, in fact)…merely repealing it will not control those cost; they will merely continue in their current upward trajectory.
“Just-Say-No” will not solve the problem any more than “Hope-and-Change” will.
Mufasa[/quote]
I have an awesome, radical idea, almost breathtaking in its vision.
In fact, I am quite proud of myself.
What if Congress, for once, used the Interstate Commerce Clause to keep interstate regular as the word was understood, i.e., to smash the barriers that have been created to prevent interstate competition of insurers.
That way, if California mandates that anyone offering insurance in the land of the terminally broke must cover aroma therapy, faith healing, shiatsu massages and regular blowjobs as a stress relief program, you can say fuck it and buy your policy in Nebraska.
Edited: and if anyone thinks that that regular blowjobs was jumping the shark, I dare you…
In fact I doubledogdare you to say so.
I haz links…
Just in case someone is wondering:
What is interesting to me is how Christian Scientists (refuse medical care), Amish (same), observant muslims (who refuse to participate in Insurance as a form of “gambling”), certain Orthodox Jewish groups (similar issues) are exempted from this new tax.
A tax that discriminates on the basis of religion.
Wow, that’s unconstitutional as all heck, not that that matters any more.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
“Just-Say-No” will not solve the problem any more than “Hope-and-Change” will.[/quote]
Completely agreed, but there was never any reason to come out with a detailed plan before the ruling. Best to keep your powder dry and then tailor your message (and policy proposal) to the state of affairs as they stand now.
I expect the details to now start showing up, and I bet dollars to donuts it will be a reform package that emphasizes no taxes on the middle class as its lead sentence. Politically, this is a gold mine for Romney.
Bolt:
I don’t think that a problem as massive as Health Care CAN have “a” plan. I’ve always thought that any serious “blueprint” would have to:
Focus on solving the COST problem, not “giving political sides what they want”.
Be Bi-partisan.
Be divided into smaller “segments”.
Include the Governors of the States AND
NOT include “deals” and/or “legal bribes” to get things done.
Needless to say, it’s doubtful that any of this will ever happen…so the Health Care Problem will just continue to escalate.
Mufasa
And I do agree that this decision WAS a political Gold Mine for Romney.
What so interesting is that the President admitted that fact when he said after the decision:
“Obviouly I didn’t do what I did (push the Affordable Health Care Act) for Political reasons…”
Mufasa
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
“Just-Say-No” will not solve the problem any more than “Hope-and-Change” will.[/quote]
Completely agreed, but there was never any reason to come out with a detailed plan before the ruling. Best to keep your powder dry and then tailor your message (and policy proposal) to the state of affairs as they stand now.
I expect the details to now start showing up, and I bet dollars to donuts it will be a reform package that emphasizes no taxes on the middle class as its lead sentence. Politically, this is a gold mine for Romney.[/quote]
Agreed, this could be the “GW Bush from 2008” that the GOP could capitalize on for 2012.
I think Orion might (I stress might) back me up on this, Europe has an obesity rate of 8%, while the US has a rate of 66%. I just wonder if Bambi considered this.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
This.
Can we please, for the love of Christ, solve a problem, not do shit to suck off and swallow the load of some bullshit political party?
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
“Just-Say-No” will not solve the problem any more than “Hope-and-Change” will.[/quote]
Completely agreed, but there was never any reason to come out with a detailed plan before the ruling. Best to keep your powder dry and then tailor your message (and policy proposal) to the state of affairs as they stand now.
I expect the details to now start showing up, and I bet dollars to donuts it will be a reform package that emphasizes no taxes on the middle class as its lead sentence. Politically, this is a gold mine for Romney.[/quote]
Agreed, this could be the “GW Bush from 2008” that the GOP could capitalize on for 2012.
I think Orion might (I stress might) back me up on this, Europe has an obesity rate of 8%, while the US has a rate of 66%. I just wonder if Bambi considered this. [/quote]
66%? I thought it was only half that!
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
“Just-Say-No” will not solve the problem any more than “Hope-and-Change” will.[/quote]
Completely agreed, but there was never any reason to come out with a detailed plan before the ruling. Best to keep your powder dry and then tailor your message (and policy proposal) to the state of affairs as they stand now.
I expect the details to now start showing up, and I bet dollars to donuts it will be a reform package that emphasizes no taxes on the middle class as its lead sentence. Politically, this is a gold mine for Romney.[/quote]
Agreed, this could be the “GW Bush from 2008” that the GOP could capitalize on for 2012.
I think Orion might (I stress might) back me up on this, Europe has an obesity rate of 8%, while the US has a rate of 66%. I just wonder if Bambi considered this. [/quote]
66%? I thought it was only half that!
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My mistake, I misread the graph.
The rate of only obesity is more than 1/3, about 36%. The rate of obesity AND overweight is 66%.
[quote]Mufasa wrote:
And I do agree that this decision WAS a political Gold Mine for Romney.
What so interesting is that the President admitted that fact when he said after the decision:
“Obviouly I didn’t do what I did (push the Affordable Health Care Act) for Political reasons…”
Mufasa[/quote]
I agree with you Mufasa and this is because Obama is a true ideologue. This is what bothers me about an Obama second term. If he did something this radical (government take over of 1/6th of the economy) having to face reelection what does he have in mind without an electorate to face?
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