It’s not side effect free, personally I never feel great while taking it. But hey, if you wanna take 40mg while showing no signs of gyno, go for it. Let us know if it works any better, I’m curious
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Leo Rex makes sense I think:
I would imagine you’d be best off using some combination of both the SERM and the AI. I’ve never run that much test, I’ve never run that much gear in a cycle either (although I am close now). Do you plan to run a second compound or is the cycle simply 1.5g test/wk?
I plan to lower the test and add nandrolone plus masteron.
I don’t think AIs were even available back in the 70s and bodybuilders were just fine.
Tamoxifen was available in the '70’s.
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I think there are much better ways to grow and increase strength than to use 1.5g test. I personally love 19-nors and my body responds well and I am MOSTLY side effect free. I’m not going to pretend like I am not causing long term heart damage, but I do believe I am very “responsible” (if you could call it that) with AAS use.
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Everyone is different. This approach is not recommended unless you have some experience with a Test only cycle and know how your body works.
Just know AI requirements, and other requirements change, as body composition changes.
Regarding Nolva only, no AI
Seth Feroce shows an example blast. He mentions his top end for Test around 1.2g.
He doesn’t use an AI, only Nolva. Talks at 20 minute mark. He doesn’t realize it’s a SERM(or just misspoke, possibly dumbing things down)
He doesn’t log slin in video, most likely because of the dangers.
Steroids, Drugs, and Life Part 3
I have ran 1.2g Test E and 900mg Deca using just 20mg Nolva EOD. No AI
Of course had Pramipexole and Aromasin on hand.
Some people don’t seem to realize the power of estrogen. I suggest everyone research it.
I cycled twice, before moving to blast and cruise.
I also started at 37 years.
I did the typical cookie cutter AI dosages.
My Estro was 31 within range.
It wasn’t until my first cruise that I dropped AI early and ran nolva for 2 weeks, that I just blew up over the next 4 weeks. Of course some water retention, but I was strong AF and just pumped.
I researched and found what many of us know.
AI can be used before competition to help get shredded. AI was keeping me flat. I would go to bed pumped, wake up flat as hell, like do I even lift lol.
I then found that plenty of pros just use Nolva to block, or have glands removed, and don’t use an AI to take advantage of estrogen in the off-season.
It is imperative that you actually cruise, and come of blast. Long periods of time with elevated estrogen is bad. I know many of you know this, I am just mentioning this in case some newbie is reading.
40mg ED would be overkill, I say start at 20mg ED, and then up dosage if you notice nipple sensitivity. If no symptoms try dropping to 20mg EOD for a week or two. If symptoms come up, move back up to ED.
Now for the part where I say: I found I didn’t need such high dosages. However, I don’t regret it, I was my own experiment.
Diet is key.
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Just my experience with 700mg or so of test: 0.125 anastrozole and 20mg tamoxifen MWF are enough for me to keep E2 sides down. I have little sides on this dose of test with that outside of bloating. So, based on reading some responses, I may cut the anastrozole to MF, keep tamoxifen MWF and see if everything stays the same.