This would do me no good anyway. Body weight ratios only work for short people. I’m 6’5", 230lbs. Guys like @Reed who are 5’6" and 220lbs are going to be way stronger than me due to larger muscle cross sectional area and physics.
Ha, I am glad that you’re in for this! I was worried the weights were too light to make it worth your while, but I figure this is something everyone can scale to their own ability level (or find a way to make it extra challenging, like using an axle).
I had figured that, for whoever makes it through 30 minutes of EMOM singles, that final “max rep” set would be basically anything goes. TnG or deadstop is fine. That final set is merely a way to spice things up for people that make it through 30 minutes (and a way to keep anyone from staying at the gym for 2 hours just to “win” the challenge).
People should feel free to use whatever weight they feel is appropriate. 405 seems like the best catch weight where it’s heavy enough to be challenging for most people on the site, but remains fairly inclusive. I have no problem with novices using 225, 275, 315, whatever they want; and if stronger people want to participate but consider 30 singles at 405 a waste of time, they should go ahead and do it with 500, or a challenging implement (axle), or maybe double-overhand to tax their grip, etc. Everyone can play.
I’d take a gamble and say I’m strong but not by weight lifting standards alone. Don’t underestimate the force long levers can produce.
Which brings me to a philosophical/pondering point… Would weight lifted be more similar from one person to the next if the DISTANCE it moved was controlled? For me, a Deadlift could start from a rack or blocks to make the distance pulled equal to that of a shorter person. But then you’d run into the problem of trying to imitate the same joint angles as well. Hmmm.
I think weight lifters (myself included) take huge pride in the idea of strength. I think strength is too multifaceted to compile into barbell movements.
I compete in a couple of combat and contact sports. For example, I’ve squatted 600 in wraps before (probably a bit high). I doubt I could do that right now. However, even though I’ve been slacking off attending my rec league wrestling practices, I am having way better matches against people who usually tear me to shreds. I attribute some, if not most, of that to improved conditioning and strength in higher rep ranges. Am I strong squatting 600, or strong manhandling someone 30 lbs heavier?
Jeezus!!! I propose anyone suggesting that they can deadlift 405 for 2hrs EMOM automatically volunteered themselves to participate with the addition of 1 or more 45’s per side, lol
All kidding aside, I love this idea. Hopefully some of us less developed could participate with reduced weights… AFTER posting their 405 attempts of course
I have NO say since I wouldn’t be banging out lots of reps but I like the 30 minute cap. I’d suggest if there are a group of guys that hit this weight is added to the bar for an EMOM count as opposed to repping out
Again, just my opinion. I know I won’t be hitting 30 reps anyways, lol
Love this idea. I may try to participate. Hopefully this isn’t anything like my sex life where I either can’t get it up or only last a couple minutes, lol
I may follow along with 315 just for my own personal fun. If I do, I will also try 405
If you’re looking for future challenge ideas I like this one but taking into each participants bodyweight… maybe we go double our bodyweight EMOM. I know I shouldn’t admit this on T-Nation but 405 is considerably more than double my bodyweight AND I just started deadlifting. Flame away
I’d be interested in seeing how many EMOM I can do with 2xbw (let’s say 345) deadlift. Probably 7-10 at the most right now, but if I spend the next month or so reacquainting myself with the deadlift then who knows.
Thanks dude! Appreciate you all coming up with the idea.
@anon50325502 You’ll kick ass too dude. It’s great to have something to shoot for.
Had some difficulty editing this. I wanted to keep the rest times in and just play them at a fast speed, but the file kept corrupting, so I ended up just getting every deadlift in there.
My camera cut out at minute 26 so I had to pull the rep, then turn it back on, so that got missed.
I’ll also add that I think this is a great challenge idea with the rules laid out as-is. If you can’t pull 405, all you need to do is pick a weight that is somewhere in between…
A weight that is very close to your max.
A weight that you can do reps with for a minute straight.
How can you make sure you’re actually doing EMOM without a timer of some sort?
I don’t carry my phone or anything with me to the gym, so I figured I’d just assume it takes me about 3-5 seconds to set up and lift and so rest for 55 seconds after each set.
I don’t think it matters that much for singles, but how can you time correctly on sets that go on for a number of reps?