That is why I wouldn’t do that.
Weight gainer + Whole milk but good macros on it not much sugar.
Thats just nasty bro. I’d never drink milk intraworkout.
Eddie Hall trains upward of 4 hours at a time and was trying to get to 200kg bodyweight.
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Stop posting here then. We’re not qualified personal trainers, we can’t help you. Go open your own t nation
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You are not Eddie Hall.
Do what you want and stop asking for validation and then complaining when you don’t get it. If it works keep doing it, if it doesn’t work dont do it. End of thread.
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Commit to one goal. Are you going to gain mass or lean out? Leaning out while bulking doesn’t really exist.
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If you want to stay lean while gaining, keep your surplus low (+300ish/day).
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Eating in a 5 hour window is a very suboptimal approach for muscle gain.
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Calories matter more than your eating window. Yes, you can even gain fat only eating 1 meal per day.
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Real food will get you better results than a 1600+ calorie shake.
If I were coaching you I’d first take you through a fat loss cycle until you hit your desired level of leanness. Looks like that would take about 4-8 weeks if you still have abs as you do in your profile photo. Then we’d start a lean mass gaining phase, increasing calories slightly, but just slightly so we are able to maintain most of the leanness we achieved in the fat loss cycle.
Your diet wouldn’t be extreme. I’d put you on 3-4 meals a day. If we used intermittent fasting it would be an 8 hour window. Whole foods, no crazy sugar shakes. We’d learn how to have a healthy and sain approach nutrition.
You wouldn’t be allowed to post on T-Nation asking more questions because it only overloads your brain with information and leads to mental masturbation that will distract you from following a plan with consistency and trusting the process.
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The words “bulking” and “fast” don’t belong together. It’s inefficient at best and counterproductive at worst.
Why are you not coordinating DC Training with the type of nutrition plan its creator suggests?
If you’d instruct a client who has a history of digestive issues to follow a very high calorie IF plan, you really need to study more. Thinking the problem is “solved” because symptoms disappear with the use of a digestive aid is short-sighted.
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Lol @ i’m a personal trainer like that carries any weight. Literally pay your money and do a weekend course and that’s you done. Not exactly a doctorate.
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It’s all dependent on who runs the course though isn’t it and who the awarding body is.
keyword some not all I said some I didn’t say I’m a dietitian.
Oh I’m sure your certification came from a very prestigious organisation…
So you started a thread proposing an idea, which has been shot down by people much more knowledgeable than you. Are you just going ahead with it anyway?
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On an unrelated note, reading everyone say “consuming 4,000 kcal in five hours is craaaaazy” is kinda making me laugh. Man I’m pretty sure I have had MEALS of 4k+ cals after smoking pot.
In five hours I could easily consume triple that amount. Am I the only one? 
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How strenuous are these workout/lifting sessions?
Like 1-10 with 1 being an after dinner neighborhood walk, and 10 being a soul crushing prolonged torture session that you’re just glad to live through.
Anything past 5 is probably a waste of food.
No. As a youngun’ I could crush a large pizza with extra cheese, pepperoni, sausage, and bacon no problem. That was my standing order at the local pizza shop.
That would be equivalent 50 ounces of oil, or 60 cups of cooked rice. 4,000 yes, triple that, probably not.
Okay probably 12,000 is a bit an exaggeration. But I recall that one time I went out with friends for pizza and since a couple of them weren’t very hungry I ended up totaling 3 pizzas.
I don’t know, if I really wanted I think I could reach a pretty high number of calories in five hours. I just like food too much.
I have eaten 10,000kcal in a day. It wasn’t clean and it was brutal and it was zero prep - all eaten out.
You may pull it off once, that’s not the hardest bit. The hard bit is doing it day in, day out.
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Ikr, there has been a period I have eaten 4,000 kcal a day of “diet sensible” food and planning all the meals was a hassle.
Exactly that’s what I don’t get.
Anyway as Chris opened my eyes Dante had his own nutrition guidelines I forgot about that so I am going to stick with those.
I would of thought the hard part is the bathroom trip the next morning
That wasn’t too bad. I had a tub of ice cream before bed, it was hard getting to sleep.