40, Nothing to Show for It

Yeah. If there’s dopamine involved I’m gonna figure out how to get mine.

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Gratuitous awesome therapy vid:

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I reference this sketch all the time - I love Newhart and this sketch just speaks to me on so many levels.

EDIT: I think I might want to add this to the “Weird” thread

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I actually show it to clients sometimes.

It’s probably not that easy being one of my clients, honestly.

I think this brings up an interesting discussion point.

What if most people really are suffering from some form of stimulus addiction and it is causing a lot of their issues?

Many people are, for example gamers and porn watchers who can’t break away.

They should probably stop it.

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I mean, why wouldn’t you show them that? it’s great advice. and delivered by a very funny man … at least I think he’s funny - he’s so damn deadpan I can never be sure

Hey! Whoa whoa whoa! Let’s just slow it down a sec.

No need for all that crazy talk.

:joy:

It may have even more meaning to you.

@travistee
Where are your family and friends in all this?

I assume the lives of some or many were difficult but this difficulty made them more dedicated to and dependent on each other, which might have lended to life satisfaction.
This is quite different than the image-driven, consumerist, materialistic, hedonistic, grossly individualistic, and atomized scene we have today. Many businesses were closed on Sundays or closed early in the past. And I think people were more religious from what I’ve read and heard.

I am more than certain my great grandfather would have preferred experiencing ennui rather than black lung.

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I don’t see how this statement relates to my post.

Are you saying that with the intent of wanting me to explain how it does, or as a statement of fact? I don’t want to presume.

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Both. I made a generalized post in which I said in a context people can have life satisfaction in hardship provided this hardship creates an environment necessitates cooperation, dependence, and following up one’s word versus an individualistic, overabundant society in which people can get by doing their own things, lying, and just not caring (except about numero uno).

I don’t see how this pertains to the misfortune of one man who obviously didn’t want to be ill. And many people rather age, suffer from illness and/or die in the company of their loved ones rather than alone.

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I assure you he was not the only man that got black lung during that time. Which is what my post was alluding to.

People come together in times of hardships because that is what is required to survive those hardships. Absent those hardships, there’s no need to come together, which is what results in isolation. You’re observing Mazlow’s Hierarchy of Needs at work. In turn, the misfortune one experience correlates to the same hierarchy of needs.

In hard times, the hardship one endures tends to reside in the security and safety level: they get hurt, sick, homeless, and die. Tragically enough, it’s a species-wide issue, with infant mortality at a high, people not naming their kids until they’re 1 year old so that they don’t “get attached”, and moms churning out 18 kids in the hope that 5 may survive.

When you get the hierarchy filled all the way up to the top, you experience crisis of self-actualization: loneliness, ennui, existential angst, despair, etc.

My post was a statement saying that, given the choice between life satisfaction while experiencing hardship vs an unsatisfying life while being at a stage of self-actualization, the people that actually got to experience that hardship would MUCH rather take the latter than the former.

It’s easy to romanticize “the way things were” until you factor in the things that came with it, like race riots, infant death, a war every 20 years to help cull the excess population, and frequent bouts of starvation and disease. Those things bring people together, but I’d rather be alone if it meant we didn’t have it.

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You’re the only one with any reasoning in this fucking place. You see the world for what it is. Most of these people don’t see it, or try not to understand it, I dunno.

The most happiest people I know are the ones that are more in touch with the traditional ways of being. People real in tune with nature ,that live out in the middle of fucking nowhere. Us city dwellers, we’re all going mad. At least that is what it feels like. I mean, look at us, we sit here bickering online lol

For what? for nothing!

You do realize that depressive/anxiety ridden people tend to thrive in those types of situations, right?

@SkyzykS

last I checked there were still people working in coal mines. maybe not as much, but they’re still out there.

And let’s not cry too hard about it. For a lot of those guys what else were they going to do with a high school diploma? They were leaving high school making 80k+ a year lol

there’s a saying that goes… great, now I can’t remember it. Someone help me. It has to do with slowly going mad from ones own monotony… ahh now it’s killing me that I can’t think of it .

Anyways.

I know. My brother in law and several of his family do.

In the early 1900’s?

You tipping a few back or something man?

Anyhoo, no, nobody leaves high school and makes 80k/year.

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Yep it’s definitely every single other person other than you and your pal who are on the right track. Definitely.

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