Do you know what about TRT decreases sensitivity ?
Your free t is pretty good man, but your estrogen is low. Very low considering how much t you have. You must be on an ai right?
Low estrogen is the main cause for low libido. Iāve posted the article twice now (looks t my profile and find that post last year I posted) where it shows researchers found estrogen in the brain was found to produce desire/libido for men. This aināt bro science.
This sensitivity answer Iām going to write is an educated guess. I have found any research or literature written on this topic.
As stated earlier estrogen = libido. When you take TRT you shut down the testicles. I spoke to another doctor who said it could be that the Testes produce estrogen and that causes the local area like the penis to have sensitivity. When we start TRT the testes stop producing these hormones and therefore the estrogen in the area is no longer producing this effect.
One thing we do know for sure is that aromotase (estrogen) occurs locally in tissue.
The e in our lab results is not showing the levels in our tissue, heart, brain or testicles and bones. So that could play into the testicles needing to be activated for more sensitivity.
This is why we are always suggesting donāt take an ai. Itās too dangerous after realizing how this hormone works. What if E was low in the heart or bones and etc?
My solution was to inject hcg at 400iu and then every 3-4 days continue.
I have tried hcg on and off for a good year now and every time I stop hcg my orgasms and sensitivity falls quickly. I stop because I was trying to see if this was real or in my head. After a couple weeks I take hcg again and the benefits are obvious.
Iāve probably come on and off hcg 10 times and every time my sensitivity improves.
My wife also sees the difference. Without hcg i can last for hours: with hcg 30-1 hour or much less. I love how it feels.
Iāve heard of others having the same experience, but for some It doesnāt work. Maybe their testes are jsut not functioning properly?
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Whatās your hcg protocol? @enackers
Thanks for the feed back its deffinyl well appreciates when someone takes time to gives a well detailed response. I agree my free T is pretty good. But to answer your question I have not been on a A.I for over a year. There was a big thing on this forum a while ago about how a A.I can be harmful so I stopped. So no currently rite now I am not on a A.I.
So one thing that I have learned in the past was that when you have to many moving parts it is hard to tell which one is causing issues. So I have always kept my HCG protocol at 250 I.U and always manipulated the testosterone. So rite now I have been on 250 I.U EOD HCG for a while. Do you think I need to increase the dosage
Yes this is also another reason why I have nit gave up HCG. I have had way more better experience on HCG then with out it. So im not sure which one should be increased the Testosterone or the HCG
What do you think?
Glad I can be of help.
Maybe hcg isnāt good quality? Where are you getting it from?
To test this out I would only modify my hcg dose for the outcome you desire. Your T dose and levels doesnāt matter right now. Sure it will rise with more hcg, but only so much. I would try a larger hcg dose ASAP and then try it ever 4th day.
Make sure you abstain from any sexual activity whatsoever for a few days if you havenāt already. Be honest with yourself. Donāt be that guy who has been stimulating and trying to have sex for a year while having issues. This would mean you need more time to heal. Donāt force yourself to have desire or have sex. Jsut take a break and let the brain and body naturally want it.
Iāve had this issue in the past and total abstinence was a god send
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I just inject 400iu every few days. Sometimes Iāll just rake 150 every other day for a couple weeks.
Check prolactin and DHT
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I use Pregnyl
Wait why abstain from sexual activity?
No I have not yet checked that I will be checking it next round of labs as well the thryroids meds
Also has anyone experienced extremely dry skin with testosterone?
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Abstain to give the body a break. Just like anything else. The human body becomes desensitized to different worlds things like food, music, sex, and etc
By giving the body a rest you will generate a bigger drive and let it heal. Thatās if you have not taken the suggested break.
If you injure yourself or have pain you would take a rest to let it heal.
With the sexual function mental and physical you need to let it rest if you have not.
Anytime I take a couple days off, I feel like I havenāt had any sex for weeks/ itās crazy how much better sex is.
I am healthy without issue so I donāt need to take longer breaks. I donāt force it. I get aroused fairly easily without much effort .
Hope that helps: itās worth the effort bro.
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Thanks bro your wisdom is well appreciated honestly it really is worth coming to this forum to hear from other that are here truly to help. I will give this a chance because I honestly belive that you could be rite I have been forcing my self to have sex just to satisfy the need of others and I think for once I need to give my body a break. Thank you
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You are welcome. This will help If you have been forcing it. Looking forward to hearing from ya in the near future .
Then why wonāt my Dr. prescribe me estrogen for my crap libido?
Your body manages what it needs normally. Taking estrogen because levels are low isnāt how you do it. Iāve said this a million times and you know exactly what Iām going to say. Modify the dose and let the body manage it. If libido sucks try more or less.
There are obviously a billion other issues that can cause low libido with healthy estrogen in a man or woman.
Such as watching too much porn and jerking it like a baboon everydayā¦ then you have other things like pharmaceuticals.
And Iāve said this a million times and youāre ignorant:
Some bodies dont āmanage itā the way weād like. Some bodies need an ai to get the ratio correct.
I see yiure still selling a one size fits all approach. Just modify the dose! Sure. If your body cooperates.
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There you go again. Bringing up rare occurrences and nit picking at everything like an angry teenagerā¦
So much hostility. Bye dude. Enjoy your narrative , which you came up with to avoid being wrong.
If there were just a couple ārare occurrencesā this forum wouldnāt exist.
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@enackers I like your input on this forum. But you need to understand that most of population that comes here have issues because trt is causing problems.
Many have tried many different protocols and still have specific complaints. I personal think that many men, who are probably not on this forum, take testosterone and everything balances without ai.
Again, I gather there are quite a few where this doesnāt work.
Itās like telling someone that needs thyroid treatment you need to take t3/t4 combo. But you know what, that someone has a very strong reaction to t3 and synthroid is what works for them. But you insist that the combo is the only way to go.
I also think we need to educate the people coming here that were brainwashed to believe that they need the AI. and that if they remove the AI and take a reasonable dose that in most cases it does balance out. Just like me I was brainwashed to think my estradiol had to be 22.
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How has it been going?
Hey Srry for been gone for so long. I started a new job and things have been crazy. But this time being away has allowed me to reflect on a lot of things. So far I have been hanging in there. Main symptoms I have been dealing with is sensitivity and errection strength. But I have been doing a lot of thinking. I really want to get off of TRT. For those guys on here injections this stuff for muscle growth Iām all for it let them be the people who inject this stuff but I am simply taking this medication because of a health issue but I need to figure what went wrong with my body that led me to injecting this stuff. Once I find the root cause hopefully I can address it. But the proablem is I donāt even know where to start. A lot of the times I think what has to happen is for me just to stop taking TRT and let my hormones go back to baseline and I might have a better chance of what has gone wrong with me if I do that but Iām not sure if I can afford to feel like crap for how ever long it takes me to figure things out
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