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[quote]lixy wrote:
Sifu wrote:
I would be willing to wager that this summer more children were killed by bombs set off by Alqaeda than by America.

Fuck Al-Qaeda! Nobody in their right mind would actively support them. Stop making it sound as if anyone around here condones their murderous acts. However, a bunch of you guys are not only financing, but also cheering US army actions in Iraq.[/quote]

lixy,

I don’t think anyone here belives your “outrage” over al qaeda. In fact, I’ll bet if we asked the regulars, they’d overwhelmingly agree that you are quite friendly with their goals.

It’s you who likes to gleefully post their acts. We remember your pleasure at the killing of Abdul-Sattar Abu Risha.

al qaeda killed him.

JeffR

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[quote]lixy wrote:
Sifu wrote:
I would be willing to wager that this summer more children were killed by bombs set off by Alqaeda than by America.

Fuck Al-Qaeda! Nobody in their right mind would actively support them. Stop making it sound as if anyone around here condones their murderous acts. However, a bunch of you guys are not only financing, but also cheering US army actions in Iraq.[/quote]

The point I was trying to make Lixy is that you and others talk about the bombing of Iraq a lot. Bombing is a plural term. You make it sound like the Air Force is flying over Iraq with B52’s and just carpet bombing entire cities like we did to Dresden in world war two.

I could be wrong, but I don’t think that they are doing much bombing now. If you watch the news much of what you see is infantrymen. You don’t see much bombing, if any. I can’t remember the last time I saw a bomb dropped in Iraq, it has been a while and I do watch a good amount of news. If you have some info on the bombing you would like to share. Post a link.

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[quote]JeffR wrote:
lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Bullshit yourself. He funded terrorists and he harbored Zarqawi.

He funded Palestinians who believed in the right to defend themselves by setting off bombs. Those folks have absolutely nothing to do with Al-Qaeda so quit trying to amalgamate Palestinians with Ben-Laden. More importantly, Hussein’s contribution to the “suicide-bombing” business is negligible compared to what the Saudis inject.

Voice of reason here: If he funded one set of terrorists, what makes you sure he wouldn’t fund those hostile to his American enemy?

You aren’t and he would.

JeffR

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Which is why we are better off with Saddam out of the mix. Saddam could have pulled off a big hit, paid Osama to take the credit for it and the two of them could have played us for fools.

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[quote]JeffR wrote:
I don’t think anyone here belives your “outrage” over al qaeda. [/quote]

Suit yourself.

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[quote]Sifu wrote:
The point I was tying to make Lixy is that you and others talk about the bombing of Iraq a lot. Bombing is a plural term. You make it sound like the Air Force is flying over Iraq with B52’s and just carpet bombing entire cities like we did to Dresden in world war two. [/quote]

Again with WWII?

If your argument is that the US could be doing a lot worse to the Iraqis, I think we all know that. Some of us think that it’s bad enough already.

And if you think that every time a bomb is dropped in Iraq, your favorite news station reports that, you are seriously deluded my friend. Tens of Thousands of bombs have been dropped since 2003, and while the intensity has dropped, bombs are still falling. In the 4 first months of 2007 alone 237 bombs were used.

http://integrator.hanscom.af.mil/2007/June/06072007/06072007-21.htm

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[quote]lixy wrote:
Fuck Al-Qaeda! Nobody in their right mind would actively support them.[/quote]

Woa, stop right there… I thought Saudi Arabia was funding al-qaeda. So nobody in Saudi Arabia is in their right mind? The whole country is crazy? And you get mad when we rip on Iran?

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[quote]lixy wrote:

If your argument is that the US could be doing a lot worse to the Iraqis, I think we all know that. Some of us think that it’s bad enough already.
http://integrator.hanscom.af.mil/2007/June/06072007/06072007-21.htm[/quote]

I believe that Sifu was saying that the US is military is acting in a restrained manner, not that they could do a lot worse to the Iraqis.

He is also saying that there has been no restraint in civilian slaughter by members of al-qaeda who will emerge as Sunni leaders if the US leaves.

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[quote]lixy wrote:
However, a bunch of you guys are not only financing, but also cheering US army actions in Iraq.[/quote]

You are dead wrong.

We are cheering when they kill terrorists from Al-Qaeda, (these people you allegedly call murderous butchers), not when there is a friendly fire incident or we accidently kill women and children because cowardly terrorists use them as human shields. I have not seen one post of anyone cheering over a dead civilian Iraqi.

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:
lixy wrote:
However, a bunch of you guys are not only financing, but also cheering US army actions in Iraq.

You are dead wrong.

We are cheering when they kill terrorists from Al-Qaeda, (these people you allegedly call murderous butchers), not when there is a friendly fire incident or we accidently kill women and children because cowardly terrorists use them as human shields. I have not seen one post of anyone cheering over a dead civilian Iraqi.[/quote]

Then you have evidently overlooked the “Bush Lied - People Died” crowd. They watch the death toll like I used to watch the Tote Board an the Jerry Lewis Telethon.

“Do we have a new total? Roll it!!!” The antiwar left is the party of death. And the only reason is because they want more power inside the Beltway.

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You might have a point. The only people who would cheer the deaths of Iraqi civilians would be those against the war.

The people who support the war are the people Lixy was talking about. I have not heard one war supporter cheer dead Iraqi civilians. Dead terrorists and insurgents maybe. In this, Lixy was wrong.

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:
You are dead wrong.

We are cheering when they kill terrorists from Al-Qaeda, (these people you allegedly call murderous butchers), not when there is a friendly fire incident or we accidently kill women and children because cowardly terrorists use them as human shields. I have not seen one post of anyone cheering over a dead civilian Iraqi.[/quote]

You did carpet bomb villages (remember Fallujah?), and people still call it “restraint”. HH calls on “burning the nest”, “carpet bombing”, and “a land where the buffalo roam”. If that’s not cheering up genocide, I don’t know what is. For heaven’s sake, the guy’s inspiration is Ann Coulter!

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[quote]lixy wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
You are dead wrong.

We are cheering when they kill terrorists from Al-Qaeda, (these people you allegedly call murderous butchers), not when there is a friendly fire incident or we accidently kill women and children because cowardly terrorists use them as human shields. I have not seen one post of anyone cheering over a dead civilian Iraqi.

You did carpet bomb villages (remember Fallujah?), and people still call it “restraint”. HH calls on “burning the nest”, “carpet bombing”, and “a land where the buffalo roam”. If that’s not cheering up genocide, I don’t know what is. For heaven’s sake, the guy’s inspiration is Ann Coulter![/quote]

Watch the CNN special about Falusia. They did not carpet bomb the city, the let the women and children out before the actual invasion and went in house to house clearing the city of terrorists. In one event, a group of men waving a white flag were let through by the troops. The next time the soldiers saw these men, they had guns in their hands and were shooting at troops. So they did not carelessly shoot civilians as you like to think.

But hell, since we get such bad PR regardless of what we do, maybe they should have.

Oh yes,

How many brigades does HH lead?

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:
lixy wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
You are dead wrong.

We are cheering when they kill terrorists from Al-Qaeda, (these people you allegedly call murderous butchers), not when there is a friendly fire incident or we accidently kill women and children because cowardly terrorists use them as human shields. I have not seen one post of anyone cheering over a dead civilian Iraqi.

You did carpet bomb villages (remember Fallujah?), and people still call it “restraint”. HH calls on “burning the nest”, “carpet bombing”, and “a land where the buffalo roam”. If that’s not cheering up genocide, I don’t know what is. For heaven’s sake, the guy’s inspiration is Ann Coulter!

Watch the CNN special about Falusia. They did not carpet bomb the city, the let the women and children out before the actual invasion and went in house to house clearing the city of terrorists. In one event, a group of men waving a white flag were let through by the troops.

The next time the soldiers saw these men, they had guns in their hands and were shooting at troops. So they did not carelessly shoot civilians as you like to think. [/quote]

“On November 8, 2004, the assault began in the early hours by intense bombing followed by an attack on the main train station which the Marines would later use as a staging point for follow-on forces. By the afternoon, under the protection of intense air cover, Marines had entered the Hay Naib al-Dubat and al-Naziza districts.”

[i]"The city suffered extensive damage. Fallujah was referred to as the “City of Mosques”. Before the war, it was estimated that the city had 200+ mosques; some claim 60 of these had been destroyed in the fighting.

Perhaps half the homes suffered at least some damage. About 7,000 to 10,000 of the roughly 50,000 buildings in the town are estimated to have been destroyed in the offensive ([5], [6]), and half to two-thirds of the buildings have suffered notable damage."

“At least one prominently-placed person within the U.S. military establishment, an unnamed USAF Colonel in charge of planning urban bombing operations, has expressed grave doubts about the necessity and appropriateness of the degree of force used at Fallujah, drawing a comparison to the Wehrmacht’s debacle at Stalingrad during World War II, and explicitly indicating that the U.S. public is not being presented with a forthright assessment of what happened when U.S. forces besieged the city.”

You may wanna watch the following RAI documentary.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8905191678365185391

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:
lixy wrote:
Fuck Al-Qaeda! Nobody in their right mind would actively support them.

Woa, stop right there… I thought Saudi Arabia was funding al-qaeda. So nobody in Saudi Arabia is in their right mind? The whole country is crazy? And you get mad when we rip on Iran?[/quote]

Yes. lixy is very inconsistent. Just think about the millions of Arabs that have OBL pictures hanging on their walls. Are they all insane lixy?

To deny that the man has a huge following is impossible.

Perhaps he is losing followers because of AQ’s actions in Iraq. Is that what you are trying to say lixy?

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I have already seen CNN’s documentary, thank you very much.

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[quote]lixy wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
You are dead wrong.

We are cheering when they kill terrorists from Al-Qaeda, (these people you allegedly call murderous butchers), not when there is a friendly fire incident or we accidently kill women and children because cowardly terrorists use them as human shields. I have not seen one post of anyone cheering over a dead civilian Iraqi.

You did carpet bomb villages (remember Fallujah?), and people still call it “restraint”. HH calls on “burning the nest”, “carpet bombing”, and “a land where the buffalo roam”. If that’s not cheering up genocide, I don’t know what is. For heaven’s sake, the guy’s inspiration is Ann Coulter![/quote]

You are a liar. We certainly did not carpet bomb Fallujah. Perhaps we should have. We could have decapitated the terrorists if we did. Instead we let civilians (and terrorists) leave while our Marines risked their lives fighting house to house.

You are a dirty liar. You keep exposing yourself with these lies. Any American that supports you and believes your lies should be ashamed of themselves.

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[quote]lixy wrote:
…
"At least one prominently-placed person within the U.S. military establishment, an unnamed USAF Colonel in charge of planning urban bombing operations, …[/quote]

The ever reliable unnamed source. Friend of liars and scoundrels everywhere. Peddle your shit elsewhere.

American Marines died because we chose not to level the city.

The fact that the bad guys blew up countless houses and forced us to destroy others by using them as sniper nests is not carpet bombing.

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[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
You are a liar. [/quote]

Liar yourself.

10,000 houses self-destroyed themselves?

Proof if needed, that some people cheer full blown war.

Nonsense. They only went in after the town was raided by jets.

And what the fuck do you mean by “risked their lives”? Isn’t that part of the job description? When you invade countries unprovoked, it’s very normal that the indigenous folks will go after your skin.

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lixy, you are either incredibly ignorant or you are a liar. Probably both. Either way you do not know what carpet bombing is. You should probably stop posting about it.

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[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Either way you do not know what carpet bombing is. You should probably stop posting about it.[/quote]

Sure I do. Carpet bombing is when you drop bombs that blow up cribs and women.