57 yo. 60 mg X2 wk Test C. Total T=1380,Estradial =80.8. I think E is too high. Starting. .5 mg Arimidex every 3rd day. Dialing Test C back to 30 mg every 3rd day. Thoughts…recommendations? My morning wood is definitely gone…sex drive low. Thanks.
Too much at once (you are changing 2 variables). You are going from 120 mg/wk to 70 mg/wk. That alone should take your E2 down a lot. Test levels are generally correlated strongly to E2. So if you go to 70 mg per week, you should expect around 70/120 X 80.8 = 47.1 for E2. That isn’t a super high E2 level.
When was your blood drawn in relation to your injection. If it is at trough, using the same math 70/10 X 1380 = 805. That is a pretty good number for trough levels, and I think that is about right. If you pulled closely after your injection, it might not be enough.
So start with the modified Test dose only. I might consider going just a bit higher maybe 80-100 total a week. Pull labs for TT, FT, E2 at least in a 4 weeks to evaluate where you are.
Adex is stronger than most people think. If without Adex, your E2 gets to around the 40-50 mark, I think 0.5 mg every third day has a high probability of crashing your E2 (not fun). I had really low levels of E2 with a trough level of Test at around 800 with 0.125 mg three times a week. Right now I am blasting (875 mg/wk of Test), and I am using 0.25 mg EOD. That works for me, but might not for others. Some may need more, some may not need any. We are all different. The point being change one thing at a time, then evaluate using how you feel as well as blood work.
BTW, I am jealous of your dose to blood level response. My levels on 200 mg/wk were more than 100 points lower than yours on 120 mg/wk. Could save some money on Test if I had that response.
I would drop down to 40mg twice weekly (80mg per week), this should put your numbers still in the top quarter of the ranges. I don’t understand why you are taking an AI this early in the game, you haven’t even had a chance to dial-in your levels by adjusting the dosage/injection frequency which more than likely should eliminate the needs for AI’s.
I get it.
I have tweaked protocol on a dime when this happens (or ED). Probably not a great idea, and I see that now, but sexual health can be a strong motivator for change.
I agree with you though. Just change the dose first then evaluate.
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Awesome reply. Need to digest this. Might be overreacting. 2 variable changes not good…agreed. Again thx much.
Thx so much for the detailed info. I agree. I’ll try dropping to 100 mg Test C. No AI. I’m an Engineer…I should know changing 2 variables at once is no good. Lol. Yeah…point taken…everyone is different. My lifts exploded as of month 2 but both elbows…tendinitis. Have o dial it back and dial in the dose. Best Regards.
Based on your input and others I’m dialing back to 100/wk. I’ll keep the AI off the table since changing 2 variables is not good. Best Regards.
I’m an engineer too. Mechanical. It seems half the guys in the pharma section are engineers.
It’s great your lifts are going up. Take care of those elbows though. It can be an ongoing thing, or you can address it. For me, dropping the weight usually does the trick. I can do lower weight with more reps and no elbow issues. For me, if I stay above 5 reps, I’m usually good.
Can be from the high e2, also driving PRL up, you’ve gotten good advice already. Don’t lower dose and add AI, and when/if you use the AI .25mg once or twice is likely going to be plenty (as suggested). Start smaller if you can get it. Good luck