298 Million Yr Old Forest Found

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

In regards to your point #3, whether “many Orthodox Jews will readily acknowledge” what you mentioned or not, a careful study of the book of beginnings will cause a reasonable man to eliminate the idea that the word yom can mean anything other than a literal 24 hour day. To do otherwise requires too many gymnastic moves.[/quote]

There is no “day” (as we understand it) without the Sun. But here:

http://www.aish.com/ci/sam/48951136.html

Torah trivia. G-d declared all days “good” except Monday. It has sucked since the beginning of time. (Seriously, read it.)[/quote]

Hey Jewbacca, I miss reading your posts on PWI.

I wanted to offer a great big thank you for this article. It was absolutely mind-boggling.

It is very, very rare that I encounter any ideas anymore that cause an actual paradigm shift in my thinking. I’m honestly speechless. I’m going to go and chew on this for a while. In the meantime, thanks, again.

Wow.

[quote]Cortes wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

In regards to your point #3, whether “many Orthodox Jews will readily acknowledge” what you mentioned or not, a careful study of the book of beginnings will cause a reasonable man to eliminate the idea that the word yom can mean anything other than a literal 24 hour day. To do otherwise requires too many gymnastic moves.[/quote]

There is no “day” (as we understand it) without the Sun. But here:

http://www.aish.com/ci/sam/48951136.html

Torah trivia. G-d declared all days “good” except Monday. It has sucked since the beginning of time. (Seriously, read it.)[/quote]

Hey Jewbacca, I miss reading your posts on PWI.

[/quote]

I still lurk, but so many times the same 4-5 posters degenerate into “it’s the Joooos” fault, so I pretty much ceased posting.

You are very welcome.

You’d think, given that my people wrote (or rather, transcribed) Genesis, others would check out what we have to say about it.

[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:
Anyone else bummed that they found only trees?

I was hoping for some badass sabertoothed pandas or some shit.

Very cool discovery though [/quote]

Yeah I think it’s kinda weird that they didn’t find a single creature (to hopefully resurrect with artificial DNA muhahaha). You telling me the entire fuckin’ swamp forest was empty? [/quote]

I’ll admit I didn’t read the entire article, but does it state how long they’ve looked through the forest remains. There could still be some creature, it might just take some time. It would be epic to see perfectly preserved animals like the people in Pompeii.

Interesting how the thread changed when certain people quit posting so much.

Believing in God doesn’t mean you stop looking for scientific answers.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Believing in God doesn’t mean you stop looking for scientific answers.[/quote]

Agreed, but…

There seems to be a sizable segment of the population that steadfastly reject any scientific answers that don’t jive with their pre-existing religious beliefs.

[quote]ranengin wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Believing in God doesn’t mean you stop looking for scientific answers.[/quote]

Agreed, but…

There seems to be a sizable segment of the population that steadfastly reject any scientific answers that don’t jive with their pre-existing religious beliefs. [/quote]

And the same can be said for people who act as if science has everything figured out so far and somehow has disposed of the idea of any guided creation.

The truth is we are really fucking primitive. We just mapped out our own DNA for the first damned time and 200 years from now, those brilliant iPhones all of us are treating like gifts from God will be laughable pieces of garbage in an antique store in some future society that will think every person here shouting how much science has figured out is a moron.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
And the same can be said for people who act as if science has everything figured out so far and somehow has disposed of the idea of any guided creation.

[/quote]

Stephen Hawking is douchebag.

[quote]ranengin wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Believing in God doesn’t mean you stop looking for scientific answers.[/quote]

Agreed, but…

There seems to be a sizable segment of the population that steadfastly reject any scientific answers that don’t jive with their pre-existing religious beliefs. [/quote]

‘Seems’ is the key word. This goes along with this same stereotype that Christians are rigid and archaic in there thinking. There are plenty of Christian scientists who are interested in doing accurate science. The only time most of us get a bug up our asses is centered around ethical issues…

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ranengin wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Believing in God doesn’t mean you stop looking for scientific answers.[/quote]

Agreed, but…

There seems to be a sizable segment of the population that steadfastly reject any scientific answers that don’t jive with their pre-existing religious beliefs. [/quote]

And the same can be said for people who act as if science has everything figured out so far and somehow has disposed of the idea of any guided creation.

The truth is we are really fucking primitive. We just mapped out our own DNA for the first damned time and 200 years from now, those brilliant iPhones all of us are treating like gifts from God will be laughable pieces of garbage in an antique store in some future society that will think every person here shouting how much science has figured out is a moron.[/quote]

Rock on X!..Good post.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ranengin wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Believing in God doesn’t mean you stop looking for scientific answers.[/quote]

Agreed, but…

There seems to be a sizable segment of the population that steadfastly reject any scientific answers that don’t jive with their pre-existing religious beliefs. [/quote]

And the same can be said for people who act as if science has everything figured out so far and somehow has disposed of the idea of any guided creation.

The truth is we are really fucking primitive. We just mapped out our own DNA for the first damned time and 200 years from now, those brilliant iPhones all of us are treating like gifts from God will be laughable pieces of garbage in an antique store in some future society that will think every person here shouting how much science has figured out is a moron.[/quote]
Yeah but they are more likely to think that people who believe in YEC are even more moronic.

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
And the same can be said for people who act as if science has everything figured out so far and somehow has disposed of the idea of any guided creation.

[/quote]

Stephen Hawking is douchebag.[/quote]

LOL!

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]ranengin wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Believing in God doesn’t mean you stop looking for scientific answers.[/quote]

Agreed, but…

There seems to be a sizable segment of the population that steadfastly reject any scientific answers that don’t jive with their pre-existing religious beliefs. [/quote]

‘Seems’ is the key word. This goes along with this same stereotype that Christians are rigid and archaic in there thinking. There are plenty of Christian scientists who are interested in doing accurate science. The only time most of us get a bug up our asses is centered around ethical issues…[/quote]

Does the possibility that the universe may be older than 5,700 years put a bug up your ass Pat?

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ranengin wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Believing in God doesn’t mean you stop looking for scientific answers.[/quote]

Agreed, but…

There seems to be a sizable segment of the population that steadfastly reject any scientific answers that don’t jive with their pre-existing religious beliefs. [/quote]

And the same can be said for people who act as if science has everything figured out so far and somehow has disposed of the idea of any guided creation…[/quote]

I don’t think the idea that the universe is older than 5,700 years old rules out a guided creation.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Matt and Steely, are you familiar with Dr. Andrew Snelling and his work with the RATE ((Radioisotopes and the Age of The Earth) research project?[/quote]

I am not.

I’ll look him up in a bit.