My endocrinologist has prescribed me 25mg of testosterone a week for me to see what it would do. Its purpose would be to supplement my current level of testosterone.
23 years old
Low-normal testosterone.
Is this good or what.
Hard to say without your bloodwork values to look at. If you start adding in exogenous test, you’ll end up shutting down your own production. The 25mg/wk likely won’t be enough to get you in the middle of the range, either. Most guys start around 100mg/wk and adjust up or down from there. Sounds like you may need a new doctor.
Bloodwork is as follow: 5-6 tests in the past 2 years. In all of those tests there is a range, take 1/4 of the value of the length of this range and add it to the minimum value of the range to get approximately the mean of the testosterone value of the tests (free and total). SHBG is in the middle of the range.
Nothing would have been done if I didn’t call back for a follow-up.
There is no thyroid issue although he found a nodule on it. This will be investigated with a scan.
According to him, the testosterone will not shut my own production.
There is no new doctors available.
I will start taking the test whenever I feel like it and I will take a new appointment with him when I do. .
On another subject, what would you do in this situation? Should I try to get a bigger prescription in order to sell it and how can I get him to prescribe more of it? I am open to whatever suggestion.
I am on 25mg twice weekly (50mg/wk) and for about 3 months my own testosterone was still being produced, as evidenced by testicular volume and firmness. After estrogen got out of hand was when my system was shut down and I experienced shrinkage and less density. The AI pushed TT up and the boys didn’t really recover. Recently added hCG and after 1 week have increased in size by about 50%.
Theoretically if your hypothalamus is not inhibited by the 25mg(critical thinking should be applied to the spike associated with administration) then it should add to and not inhibit your own production. But if you begin increasing the dose or fail to adequately distribute your doses over time then inhibition could occur.
Even though it’s such a tiny amount, try injecting 12-13mg twice/wk or E3D. There is a chance that a single dose of 25mg could be inhibitory over the next 12-48hrs.
In that case would the gel be better? That is what he wanted to prescribe me before I insisted for the shot (without knowing what the dose would be).
The gel is extremely expensive, difficult to accurately titrate (dose to a specific serum range), and is absorbed at various rates. I never tried the gel mind you and I’m just going on research and testimony. Here in Vancouver it’s 280+/month for the gel, and 34/10 months at that dose. With an injectable, your doc can change the dose following labs (standard procedure). Also, the rate that a pharmacy will dispense is twice the dose-time duration. So at 10 months your bottle would be empty on 25mg/wk but they’ll refill it for you at 5 months. If you dislike the idea of twice weekly injections maybe give the gel a try and get back to us. Most people switch to inj.
I think you should find a new doc. I cannot imagine that 25mg a week would not shut you down at least partially.
C27,
Firmness and fullness arent a good way to judge shutdown.
I’ve maintained testes size from day 1. But my natural production is basically ZERO, proven by blood work.
[quote]Ned wrote:
I think you should find a new doc. I cannot imagine that 25mg a week would not shut you down at least partially.
C27,
Firmness and fullness arent a good way to judge shutdown.
I’ve maintained testes size from day 1. But my natural production is basically ZERO, proven by blood work.
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They are a good way to judge shut down when they aren’t full and ARE soft…
Maybe in your case … They stayed full and aren’t producing… But when They shrink and get soft, its a pretty good indicator of what is going on !
[quote]Macmathews wrote:
[quote]Ned wrote:
I think you should find a new doc. I cannot imagine that 25mg a week would not shut you down at least partially.
C27,
Firmness and fullness arent a good way to judge shutdown.
I’ve maintained testes size from day 1. But my natural production is basically ZERO, proven by blood work.
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They are a good way to judge shut down when they aren’t full and ARE soft…
Maybe in your case … They stayed full and aren’t producing… But when They shrink and get soft, its a pretty good indicator of what is going on !
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Agreed.
More on this since ive had sometime to put into words what i was thinking about during my intial post but couldn’t put to words properly.
Lets say you have a total natural test of 500. You begin supplementing your natural production with 25 mg of test a week. Lets say this is worth about 200 points on test levels. Theoretically, you should have levels of 700 now.
IMHO in practice though, you will still have about 500 total test as the feedback loop will scale back your natural test production because of the supplemented test.
Your endo is a moron. Pretty much all endos are morons. Go to an anti-aging Dr but educate yourself beforehand.
After starting at 200mg test everyother week going to 100 once a week my doc dialed me in at 50mg every 5 days…i do IM injections which is the cheapest and i wanted it vs gel as i heard its harder to ensure you get the right amount everytime with the gel…25mg seems really low but …that being said my natty levels were 298 snd with my 50mg every 5 days brought me to mid 800 range…