[quote]johnnytang24 wrote:
Ruger Mark III non-22/45. The 22/45 version, while mimics the 1911, I don’t think is as good as the regular Mark III.
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22/45 has a plastic lower. Mine wore down and now it jams and requires a complete teardown to unjam.[/quote]
Good luck with the tear down. As much as I love the gun, stripping it is a PITA.
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
If you want a 22 pistol right now, and a .45 down the road, then I can think of no better option than a Sig 220. You can get it in .22 now, and then buy a .45 ACP conversion kit (slide, barrel, spring and magazine) when you’re ready to “graduate”. You can find pistols in both calibers for around 800 dollars, which would be far cheaper than buying two complete pistols, and you wouldn’t have to learn the manual of arms for two different guns.
You can get conversion kits for any 1911-pattern pistol, but I recommend Sig-Sauer for their quality and reliability. If a 1911 is more to your taste, they have that too, but the 220 is a fantastic pistol, available in a lot of different configurations, plus you do have the option of buying the 22 chambering first, then upgrading, rather than the other way around.
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Great gun and recommendation, but unless he is well off that is a pretty serious investment. [/quote]
1911 is a great gun, I have a .22 conversion kit on mine, but the Ruger, for a couple hundred bucks used, is more accurate and feels like it was actually designed for the .22 round. Plus, if you feel like selling it later, it’ll keep its value.
The Ruger Mark II and CZ-452 are my two favorite .22’s that I’ve shot.
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
If you want a 22 pistol right now, and a .45 down the road, then I can think of no better option than a Sig 220. You can get it in .22 now, and then buy a .45 ACP conversion kit (slide, barrel, spring and magazine) when you’re ready to “graduate”. You can find pistols in both calibers for around 800 dollars, which would be far cheaper than buying two complete pistols, and you wouldn’t have to learn the manual of arms for two different guns.
You can get conversion kits for any 1911-pattern pistol, but I recommend Sig-Sauer for their quality and reliability. If a 1911 is more to your taste, they have that too, but the 220 is a fantastic pistol, available in a lot of different configurations, plus you do have the option of buying the 22 chambering first, then upgrading, rather than the other way around.
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Great gun and recommendation, but unless he is well off that is a pretty serious investment. [/quote]
I don’t know about the OP, but that works for me. I mean, I was looking at H&K USP 45s so, yeah.
We didn’t have great luck with the two rental Sigs we shot at a range. There were a handful of jams with both of them. I remember one was a single stack, one was double stack, but I didn’t really know much of anything about them at that point.
I probably should chalk that up to a bad range experience with guns that probably never had been cleaned.
I’m in no rush, I’ll probably do something in the next 3-6 months. Thanks for the recommendation. I didn’t realize that was an option.
if you’re looking to keep the costs down to start with EAA makes a 9mm/22lr combo @$450, 45acp/22lr combo @$550.
contact some of the local gun shops and see what used guns they have in stock and ask them if they’ve heard any stories of problems with the guns your considering.
I’m not sure how widespread it is, but sig has had some QC issues in some of their guns. Still great guns though.
Wow, I can’t believe the Browning BuckMark only got one mention. My son was jonesing for a .22 pistol, and we looked around and researched. Then I called a buddy who is a firearms instructor for a private contractor that trains military personnel about to be deployed. He first recommended the BuckMark, then asked the other instructors he works with when he got to work that day. The BuckMark was the near-unanimous choice.
[quote]Dr J wrote:
Wow, I can’t believe the Browning BuckMark only got one mention. My son was jonesing for a .22 pistol, and we looked around and researched. Then I called a buddy who is a firearms instructor for a private contractor that trains military personnel about to be deployed. He first recommended the BuckMark, then asked the other instructors he works with when he got to work that day. The BuckMark was the near-unanimous choice.[/quote]
Never used a Buckmark but never heard a negative thing from people who do. From most appearances they are great guns.
Oh, hos can I forget about the Ruger Single Six. One of the most fun guns out there.
Thanks for the help guys. I kinda want a lever action .22 as well but from what I hear those aren’t exactly cheap
[quote]bulkNcut wrote:
Thanks for the help guys. I kinda want a lever action .22 as well but from what I hear those aren’t exactly cheap [/quote]
Not bad really. You can pick up a new Henry .22 level action for $340 or so. Very smooth action. Like butter. Classic Lever Action .22 | Henry Repeating Arms
Or just sell a kidney and get this in 30-30:
http://www.grizzlycustom.com/custom_lever_action_rifle_tactical.html
[quote]bulkNcut wrote:
Thanks for the help guys. I kinda want a lever action .22 as well but from what I hear those aren’t exactly cheap [/quote]
I have a Browning BL-22 that was my mom’s as a kid. That is an awesome little gun, highly recommended.
And for tactical 30/30’s, Mossberg makes the 464 in a tactical edition at a third of the price.
I made the mistake of clicking on the second link, I don’t really need my kidney do I?
if we’re talking just a 22 and not a combo High Standard does not take a backseat to anyone. check out the High Standard Duramatic Plinker Pistol. new around $450 but you could probably find them used at a gun shop or pawn shop.they also own AMT Automag, Interarms, and U.S. Cartridge
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Where do you guys shoot? Gun club, private property, commercial gym? Kidding on the last one but seriously
That lever action is so damn beautiful
My brother has a Ruger 22/45 (in addition to some others). It is fun and easy to shoot.
I went with a Sig P250 Compact (9mm), but can do the conversions as well as several different modifications based off the full and sub compact models. It’s a nice gun so far and I haven’t had any issues with it yet (~300 rounds).
[quote]bulkNcut wrote:
Where do you guys shoot? Gun club, private property, commercial gym? Kidding on the last one but seriously [/quote]
I live in the sticks so my backyard.
I wish I could do that. I live in the sticks but have neighbors through the woods that would hear. Mostly second home owners so trust me when I say it wouldn’t go well
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
I’m not sure how widespread it is, but sig has had some QC issues in some of their guns. Still great guns though.[/quote]
Quality control problems in the handguns was quite a long time ago. Every Sig I have handled recently has been exemplary, as in never failed to load, fire or eject after hundreds an hundreds of rounds, whereas my friend’s Kimber 1911 would hiccup every fifth magazine or so.
The Sig 556R rifle in 7.63x39 suffered a bit from birth pangs, and a distinct refusal to cooperate with cheap American-made plastic magazines, which is where a lot of Sig’s bad reputation probably came from, but all current models are ticking away like…well, a Swiss watch.