Only if they want to be accused of cultural appropriation.
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Seems like a good argument for nullification, secession, etc.
So sad and true.
No, they’re South Africans. A thing that is real.
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This. For there to be leftist activity to get going anywhere, whether that was Russia in the early 1900’s or America in the 1960’s until the present day, there has to be a sizable population that is obsessed with feelings of inferiority, actual or perceived mistreatment, and resentment towards the normal middle class or pretty much anyone who wants social order. You’ll also find in the left people who just simply like wrecking things and an insidious sympathy for criminals and wrongdoers of all sorts.
Of course there is variation in the left and many who identity as left or liberal do not live as one; in fact they live far differently from one.
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Just like most pet owners live far differently from their pets.
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I suppose you’re referring to the liberals’ shock troops.
I’m not sure about the meaning of “shock troops…” I’m talking about everyone that pitches the ideals of socialism/communism to people like @castoli711/zep, while knowing the reality.
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And you pitch what capitalism? All the while knowing it’s results.
Free-Market or “Anarcho.”
Indeed. Results that can’t be touched by any other economic system, even when only “relatively free.”
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Bwahahaha…as if this has ever actually existed.
Really? Then why must the U.S. or one of it’s allies always have to put sanctions or enact embargoes against other non-capitalist countries? If their economic system of their choice is so bad, then just let it implode on its self.
You mean the ones that use children and pay people like 2 cents an hour?
Gee, I wonder why.
There’s not a lot in capitalism for the ruling class.
I believe this should be the way things happen.
There is a sizeable population of these, cheering the firings of middle class employees at Twitter with their expensive free meals and WFH.
Historically, if thinking in class terms, from the times of Emperor Nero the richest people very often allied themselves with the poor to fight the middle class.
The extermination of kulaks in the Soviet Union, expulsion of Indians from Uganda, the Nuerenberg Laws, the all had massive popular support because the target’s were what we call today middle/professional classes.
You cannot hate the super rich because their net worth is abstract to you, but you can hate a middle class person for being comparatively better off in terms you understand.
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Because they cannot let anyone see that there is another way. Otherwise the powerful will lose power and their station in life.
And who promoted child labor in the U.S.? Who brought about it’s end? Capitalists?
Who doesn’t want the minimum wage raised in the U.S.? How much would minimum wage be if it had kept up with the pace of productivity?
Of course not. Because, even though they cry about competition, it is one of the last things they want. They would much rather be a part of an oligopoly. They get as much money as they can, w/o regard to consequence, buy off whore-like politicians to keep their wealth and power.
Then why doesn’t it?
I don’t want to keep contributing to this derail. Start a thread on economic systems or something, and I’ll be glad to continue the discussion.
Yes, the “top-down” strategy.
It’s called divide and conquer. They must keep you looking away from the real problems plaguing you and focus on things that don’t matter, like Elmo
I was under the impression you grew up poor, am I mistaken?
Because I grew up poor, consider myself middle class, but I obviously have a different defintition than you do. In any case, IMO, ex-Twitter employees are a strange “hill” to plant your flag on.
Elon Musk 2024, change the laws so he can run, MAGA.
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Yes, that’s why I know how many of the poor think. They can conceptualize middle- and upper-middle class wealth, but they cannot conceptualize billionaire wealth. Compare “He’s worth X billion, he must be somehow better than me” to “He’s got a nice big house in the suburbs I hate that fucking corrupt asshole”.
Whatever one may think, a large number of people were extremely (positively) emotionally invested in a billionaire firing upper middle class salaried employees, which repudiates Marx’s theory of class solidarity. Why did they care so much that these Twitter “diversity hires” were supposedly getting lavishly compensated for doing absolutely nothing if it didn’t affect them in any way?
I’d rather live in a society run by corrupt bureaucrats that under a god-emperor. The initial illusion of efficiency is only smoke and mirrors.