I want you to tell me. You can use whatever sources you need. You can copy and paste, for all I care. But explain how it’s done. The articles you have posted do not explain it.
Obviously you didn’t bother to read any of the articles because it explains how other countries(Italy) do it and what the barriers are in the U.S.
Now you can try and refute them if you like.
Okay. Post the article in question.
I wanted you to explain it for us right-wing knuckle draggers.
From what I read the biggest barrier is financing or unequal financing where those with money are not interested in sharing ownership of the company with those with nothing.
Monodragon is the only large semi-co-op that has done well. And it is still owned by a small percent of the workers - imagine that. We already went down this road on that one in another thread.
No need to rehash it.
Yes, that ride on the back of our military prowess and spending.
How much higher? Do you even know what the effective tax rates are in those countries?
Sure it doesn’t matter to those that pay effectively zero income tax anyways or that don’t make shit.
Yes, yes it does. Because that innovation and processes have saved MILLIONS around the globe. You are all about the greater good right? Please stay consistent in your thinking.
With my self medicating of AAS through the years, I have a health care price reduction thought:
Why not allow the patient pharmacy access without a doctor’s visit and prescription for some medical situations.
One glaring opportunity might be the “required” doctor’s yearly visit for prescription renewals.
Maybe some self prescribed antibiotics following signs of infections. I have had a few instances where I could have done that.
A woman self prescription for birth control. There is plenty of internet medical information to best guess the dosage needed.
The main counter point is the harm a person could do to themselves. So if you self medicate you should not be able to hold any party liable for your mistakes.
Something to talk about, even if it’s only for obtaining pharmaceutical AAS.
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I think you should be able to walk in a pharmacy and buy whatever you want, if you are considered an adult.
Let it weed itself out.
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I don’t even have to imagine why. Ive seen it in real time.
A few guys I’m somewhat familiar with decided to start a tree co. They were working across the street from me. After knocking down my cable line and putting it back up, me and one guy started talking.
As we’re shooting the shit, the job was wrapping up and the guy was just giddy. He tells me the job was $2400., minus labor and split 3 ways he’s pocketing like $600 before lunch. Its time to hit the bar!
Then I’m thinking back to my 5 years of no less than 16hr. days, thinking “Well, thats not gonna last too long.”.
It didnt. Barely an entire year. Kaput.
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Found the article, read it, and the only explanation offered is “an olive oil effect.” In other words, they live healthier lifestyles.
You also seem to believe that measuring people’s satisfaction with their healthcare is meaningful. That’s ridiculous.
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I’d like to see the Gage R&R for that metric.
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Or we could imagine it applied to spoiled children(I.e., @castoli711).
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You mean humans in general will be lazy and only exceptional ones on average make it?
Work ethic means something? No, that can’t be. All of these people just need a shot at running a multi-million-dollar business. They could all do it and build a business. They just need to be given the chance.
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I feel like this is a really dumb question but what about that made you (correctly) assume that it wouldn’t be sustainable?
I know nothing about business, economics, etc.
Anyone who believes:
- 40 hours of work per week is the definition of a work week.
- All hours over 40 hours per week require premium pay
- Paid time off is required
Will never be capable of making a business successful.
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I realized long ago the value of sweat equity.
If they think that they get to pocket the entirety of that job and hit the bar, they’re one equipment breakdown away from ruin.
Our typical day was 7:00 am till 8,9, or 10:00pm (we’ve had the police called on us for that) of work, then fixing and cleaning tools and equipment till midnight.
Then do it again. For several years.
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100%
You work until it works. If that takes 100 hours a week at the start, you work 100 hours. These people that have never started something from scratch will never understand what it takes.
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I think people hear high rates for services, and think doing that type of service would be a golden ticket. I have a good buddy that is a general contractor. A lot of the job is unpaid. Finding business, doing the books, meeting / communicating with clients… Some people see that 4 hour job that costs a $1,000 as $250/hr. It takes more than those 4 hours that they were at your house doing the actual job.
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You were just lucky. You didn’t build that.
Anyone could do that given your talents, come on man.
You should have shared your profits with those only wanting to work 20 hours a week and given them ownership too.
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That is way more true than false. 
There were so many times we woulda/shoulda/coulda/ died, caught fire, gone through a chipper, or stopped abruptly upon arrival at the ground.
Our gaurdian angels have ptsd.
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Ohhh okay. I totally get that, my mind just thought you were implying there was, say, a mathematical error there. Didn’t really pick up on the “attitude” mistake.
But I completely agree. My dad started bricklaying around age 20, after becoming a young dad. 20+ years and a few life altering injuries later, he’s built a reputation as a great mason in the area, and is now working for a company where the boss actually appreciates good employees and he’s reaping the rewards of his work ethic and the time he dedicated to learning his craft. He’s up till 11pm at night studying plans after working/driving for 12+ hours, but he’s making it happen.
Then there’s my uncle who spent his 20s partying and his 30s bartending. Now that he’s got a real grown up job (mailman), he’s complaining about 40 hour work weeks, not having enough leisure time, and how “hunter-gatherer societies really only did 4 hours of work a day!”
Different mindsets. Neither will ever be rich, but one has something he can be proud of and the other will spend the rest of his life looking for reasons why his life should be easier.
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