What a garbage argument. More like the owners want to take advantage of the workers, have them work as many hours as possible, limit their benefits in any way they can and if you complain about your working conditions just fuck off we need to make more money. Billions aren’t enough.
The owners are trying to extort the workers as is usually the case. This is one of the reasons they give money to political campaigns and PAC’s. Now, if the workers want something the owners can have their puppets squash them.
Yeah any vote for whatever the 2 major criminal parties offer up, will be a vote for the continued destruction of our country. Just like it’s been for decades. Local politics is more important. 3rd party candidates can be elected, they aren’t controlled by the 1% ruling class for their own benefit, often at the expense of most others. And get involved w/ mutual aid and do business with worker co-ops, if you can. This is a far better recipe for change rather than put your faith in national electoral politics. Fuck the puppets in 2024!
Yeah and like I said voting for any of the criminal clowns offered up by the duopoly is more than a waste. It is detrimental. That is my candidate talk.
You have this right too. I get your point on some things, though I don’t like your or likely most people’s solutions. Did you check out and/or contribute to my thread on secession/Balkanization, something I admit is likely a fantasy of mine?
elaborate? is this just an ‘i hate all mainstream candidates’ thing?
I mean… Castoli actually said his source was ‘a guy on Indeed’ for the sick leave thing. Sooooo for once I’m on your side, lol. Castoli’s sourcing is suspect, to say the least.
This is really, really stupid and the counterargument is obvious: athlete strikes. You realize that NFL/NBA/MLB players have ALL gone on strikes within the last couple decades, right? You can have a pretty goddamn good life, unbelievable salary, and still strike. Striking is done when a labor union feels they have leverage to do so, and they think they can improve their situation. You don’t have to be in a ‘bad’ situation to want better. It’s just a negotiating tactic.
It’s really unfortunate that you’re the loudest ‘left’ voice on this forum. You’re making it hard on the rest of us.
Using leverage to improve working/salary situations is just kind of a capitalist move. It’s built into the system. No employer is ENTITLED to labor in the US. So when labor refuses to work for an employer, it’s by definition not extortion. Employees don’t owe employers shit, beyond what they are being paid for, and they’re not being paid by said employers while on strike. An employee simply refusing to work, and not expecting a paycheck as a result, is far from extortion.
And also curious as to why you think he sucks too. If I only get one opinion on Pete, I’d prefer that it was yours over Castoli’s.
A whole lot of people. Half the country, more or less. I’m asking the question, because I’m curious both as to why someone who’s very left-leaning wouldn’t like him, and why a conservative, in general, wouldn’t like him. And I guess I’m asking for specific things. Like, is it his general policy takes (meaning he’s on the left, you’re on the right, so he must suck), is it specific character attributes, is he a shady motherfucker, etc. This is a presidential candidate talk thread, and I think Pete will be in the running. So, it feels like this is something worth talking about.
I feel like everyone here can do better than ‘he sucks’, no matter who we’re talking about.
Well so, now that we have defined the word suck, in multiple ways, I am still interested in how people feel about Pete as a potential candidate for the Democratic party (I’m seriously trying to get this thread back on track, lol).
I can get the ball rolling by saying that, in the general election, I think he would fare better against either Desantis or Trump than almost any other potential candidate on the Democrat roster. I think he has many of the qualities that got Obama elected. I certainly think he’s got a better chance in the general election than either Biden or Harris would. I worry that the Democrats will fuck things up again like they did with Hillary, and then Biden, by essentially forcing the worst possible candidate on us. Have the powers that be in the party learned their lesson from the last two nominations? I’m not sure they have, but we’ll see.
Employers likewise don’t owe employees shit. Employment is a mutual agreement.
I’d agree with the last part except for all the government interference that makes it nearly impossible in many instances to bring in labor to replace the striking workforce.
What would these be? I’m asking because I don’t know of any scandals or controversies. I know that he has taken political stances that plenty of people would disagree with, but I’m not aware of anything particularly egregious, or rather, anything worse than what you’d see from literally any mayor. In other words, I’m not seeing anything that would really qualify as baggage, particularly compared to, like, every other politician on the national stage at this point. But I could simply be uninformed on this. I only started really paying attention to him in the last 5 years, anything before that is just stuff I’ve read in hindsight.
I can’t really think of anyone more electable. But also, there is a lot of time before things really get rolling, and someone could certainly emerge that’s off my radar.
