[quote]pushharder wrote:
Giants got robbed.[/quote]
I read today that Sheili Manning told Rashad Jennings not to score on the first two run plays down there so they could run the clock more. Then the dumbass goes and throws an incomplete pass on third down.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Giants got *robbed.[/quote]
You misspelled *beat there Push
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]daltron wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
I am excited and very interested in how the next few weeks play out for the Cowboys. There has been talk about what seperates average qbs and elite ones in these threads. There has also been talk about how after Dez the Cowboys reveiver talent falls off considerably. I wonder what the talk will be if The Cowboys are able to still win these next 4-5 games without one of the best receivers and a “poor” running game? Then get Hardy, Dez, McClain, and Gregory +10-15#s(because all he is going to be doing is meetings and weight room) back.
That last drive last night by Romo was incredible. [/quote]
I don’t have anything bad to say about Romo, but I think you need to put that game into perspective. The Giants haven’t exactly been dominant lately and anytime you win with a -3 turnover differential chances are the other team contributed to your win, too. The leading receiver for Dallas was a RB and two of Romo’s three TD’s were to Witten.[/quote]
Yeah, I think I am just fine on how I view last nights win. I knew the Giants were in some trouble on the defensive side of the ball. I knew they had some potential for big plays on offense even with Cruz out. I also recognize that they are a long time divisional opponent who pretty much always plays us tough.
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anytime you win with a -3 turnover differential chances are the other team contributed to your win, [/quote]
Our team contributed to them even being in the game because of the 17 points we gave them on turnovers.
Your post heavily played up a win in which they had a -3 turnover differential and in which the Cowboys were gifted an extra 35-39 seconds at the end of the game for a drive in which that extra time was crucial. What I am saying is your post was way too optimistic given the circumstances. A win is a win, but the Cowboys won because of several hugely critical Giant’s errors. I also don’t see how they win the next 4-5 games straight without a loss.
Feel free to quote this post during the week 6 bye week. I estimate 2+ losses.
[quote]FlatsFarmer wrote:
Pac Man Jones is making his mom proud again.
The Bills looked good. I heard they sold 60,000 season tickets. Did y’all see Bills saftey Bacarri Rambo suplex that receiver Montcrief? I need to Get a Rambo Jersey!
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I was a little worried he was gonna get flagged for that. Glad he didn’t. Rambo’s the guy who picked off Rodgers twice in the Green Bay game last year after the Redskins let him go. Which is slightly less awesome when you watch the tape and see that he was in the wrong place at the right time on one of them, but still pretty awesome.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
With a defense like Seattle’s the onside kick is an interesting idea.
If you don’t recover it, you just have to keep them out of the endzone on a short field. Even if you give up the field goal you have one of the best kickers in the league to tie it up and put you into the sudden death portion of OT.
IF you recover it, automatically into sudden death where if you can kick a field goal you win. It was interesting and not at all a stupid decision. Didn’t work out but that doesn’t mean it was dumb.[/quote]
True. Essentially, you’re risking ~30yds of field position for a chance to retain possession with sudden-death now in effect.
Because somehow, receiving a kickoff counts as an actual possession. This despite your C, QB, and offensive personnel potentially never setting foot on the field.
Clearly, they needed consistency in the rulebook – since fumbling that opening kickoff return is straightfwd loss of possession – but equating “an opportunity to possess the ball” with “actual offensive possession” seems quite silly overall. IMO.
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[quote]daltron wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]daltron wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]daltron wrote:
SEA @ STL was phenomenal. Great win for the Rams at home. I don’t think they will, but if they replicate that success in Seattle then they will take the division. With the 49ers having a down year, it’s nice to see there is still competition for the division title in the NFC West.[/quote]
I would not count out San Fran yet. I think Hyde will have a top 5 back year for the niners.
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The 49er’s roster has been decimated by free agency, surprise retirements, and cuts. They will not be in contention for the playoffs this year I imagine. That, and people severely underestimate the departure of Jim Harbaugh, liked or unliked. Besides, the Rams have gotten better. I would not be surprised in the least if the 49ers are last in the division.
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Yeah, I am aware of what the niners have lost. Harbaugh was a great fit for that team for a while. His style of coaching does not stay efficient for very long at the pro level. 4-5 years. The niners offensive line has the potential to be dominant again this year and I believe Hyde will have a minimum top 5 back year behind that line. Kap isn’t an elite QB but he can win in this league at his talent level. Defense is where they will feel the most impact. All they have to do is be mediocre and they have a shot to at least compete for their division.
Seattle is about to implode. I know you say that the play call in the super bowl was the right call. There really isn’t any other way to put it, you are wrong. The players on that team know it too. Add to that the way Russell Wilson has been given too much credit for their success (Rodgers is the only QB in the league who makes more than Wison). Their line is bellow average. Their defense is not near the same without Kam. They just lost the opening game when in overtime their coach either called or allowed an onside kick attempt. Dude, really? You can’t defend that call at all if you are being serious.
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I’m not sure if you’re being serious about half the things you said…
Regarding the 49er’s offensive line, how can you say that given the fact that every position on the line except for LT and one of the guards is a down grade from last season? You really think Jordan Devey is better than Iupati? Or that Erik Pears is better than Davis? You are debating that?
As for their defense, good luck. Decimated is putting it kindly. Again, huge downgrades in all three levels of the defense.
Not to mention, the Rams and Seahawks are better than the 49ers. Hands down.
As for Seattle, did you even watch the game? Yes, Seattle’s D has a drop off without Chancelleor, but did they look like a team who was about to implode? That was probably the best game of the week, two NFC heavyweights going at it. As for the on-side kick, Carrol thought his defense would hold them to at least a FG (which they did), and that his offense could at the least match it (which they didn’t). But hey, I know how easy it is to second guess from the couch after the fact.
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I thought San Fran looked pretty good last night. And, Hyde had himself a great game and looked to me that he will be making a statement this year.
Do you feel it was a fluke?
Rough night for my Eagles…man was that gag-inducing. Like, was that even a football team that showed up in the first half? Wolf.
On the other side, that freakin’ guy Julio Jones…what an athlete! Dude just straight burned our secondary like we were running in sand.
The second half was significantly better, but some seriously sloppy play and atrocious mental errors galore. Not how I, or anyone for that matter, envisioned our team to look on Week 1. Hopefully there were some hard-learned lessons out of this game, both from the coaching staff and players side.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]daltron wrote:
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[quote]daltron wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]daltron wrote:
SEA @ STL was phenomenal. Great win for the Rams at home. I don’t think they will, but if they replicate that success in Seattle then they will take the division. With the 49ers having a down year, it’s nice to see there is still competition for the division title in the NFC West.[/quote]
I would not count out San Fran yet. I think Hyde will have a top 5 back year for the niners.
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The 49er’s roster has been decimated by free agency, surprise retirements, and cuts. They will not be in contention for the playoffs this year I imagine. That, and people severely underestimate the departure of Jim Harbaugh, liked or unliked. Besides, the Rams have gotten better. I would not be surprised in the least if the 49ers are last in the division.
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Yeah, I am aware of what the niners have lost. Harbaugh was a great fit for that team for a while. His style of coaching does not stay efficient for very long at the pro level. 4-5 years. The niners offensive line has the potential to be dominant again this year and I believe Hyde will have a minimum top 5 back year behind that line. Kap isn’t an elite QB but he can win in this league at his talent level. Defense is where they will feel the most impact. All they have to do is be mediocre and they have a shot to at least compete for their division.
Seattle is about to implode. I know you say that the play call in the super bowl was the right call. There really isn’t any other way to put it, you are wrong. The players on that team know it too. Add to that the way Russell Wilson has been given too much credit for their success (Rodgers is the only QB in the league who makes more than Wison). Their line is bellow average. Their defense is not near the same without Kam. They just lost the opening game when in overtime their coach either called or allowed an onside kick attempt. Dude, really? You can’t defend that call at all if you are being serious.
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I’m not sure if you’re being serious about half the things you said…
Regarding the 49er’s offensive line, how can you say that given the fact that every position on the line except for LT and one of the guards is a down grade from last season? You really think Jordan Devey is better than Iupati? Or that Erik Pears is better than Davis? You are debating that?
As for their defense, good luck. Decimated is putting it kindly. Again, huge downgrades in all three levels of the defense.
Not to mention, the Rams and Seahawks are better than the 49ers. Hands down.
As for Seattle, did you even watch the game? Yes, Seattle’s D has a drop off without Chancelleor, but did they look like a team who was about to implode? That was probably the best game of the week, two NFC heavyweights going at it. As for the on-side kick, Carrol thought his defense would hold them to at least a FG (which they did), and that his offense could at the least match it (which they didn’t). But hey, I know how easy it is to second guess from the couch after the fact.
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I thought San Fran looked pretty good last night. And, Hyde had himself a great game and looked to me that he will be making a statement this year.
Do you feel it was a fluke?
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Do I feel what was a fluke? Hyde? I don’t recall saying anything about Hyde. Their win? I don’t recall saying anything about them never winning any games.
They were at home and played an opponent who who went 31-48-1 the last five seasons. The Vikings have made the playoffs once (as a wildcard) in the last five seasons and have finished 4th in the division three times in the last five seasons.
Perspective. You need to get some. The 49ers will be below .500 at their bye.
[quote]HeyWaj10 wrote:
Rough night for my Eagles…man was that gag-inducing. Like, was that even a football team that showed up in the first half? Wolf.
On the other side, that freakin’ guy Julio Jones…what an athlete! Dude just straight burned our secondary like we were running in sand.
The second half was significantly better, but some seriously sloppy play and atrocious mental errors galore. Not how I, or anyone for that matter, envisioned our team to look on Week 1. Hopefully there were some hard-learned lessons out of this game, both from the coaching staff and players side.[/quote]
Didn’t help they were playing against the ref’s too.
I try not to bitch about officiating, but there were some pretty shit calls in that game. (ATL got boned a couple times too.)
[quote]daltron wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]daltron wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]daltron wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]daltron wrote:
SEA @ STL was phenomenal. Great win for the Rams at home. I don’t think they will, but if they replicate that success in Seattle then they will take the division. With the 49ers having a down year, it’s nice to see there is still competition for the division title in the NFC West.[/quote]
I would not count out San Fran yet. I think Hyde will have a top 5 back year for the niners.
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The 49er’s roster has been decimated by free agency, surprise retirements, and cuts. They will not be in contention for the playoffs this year I imagine. That, and people severely underestimate the departure of Jim Harbaugh, liked or unliked. Besides, the Rams have gotten better. I would not be surprised in the least if the 49ers are last in the division.
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Yeah, I am aware of what the niners have lost. Harbaugh was a great fit for that team for a while. His style of coaching does not stay efficient for very long at the pro level. 4-5 years. The niners offensive line has the potential to be dominant again this year and I believe Hyde will have a minimum top 5 back year behind that line. Kap isn’t an elite QB but he can win in this league at his talent level. Defense is where they will feel the most impact. All they have to do is be mediocre and they have a shot to at least compete for their division.
Seattle is about to implode. I know you say that the play call in the super bowl was the right call. There really isn’t any other way to put it, you are wrong. The players on that team know it too. Add to that the way Russell Wilson has been given too much credit for their success (Rodgers is the only QB in the league who makes more than Wison). Their line is bellow average. Their defense is not near the same without Kam. They just lost the opening game when in overtime their coach either called or allowed an onside kick attempt. Dude, really? You can’t defend that call at all if you are being serious.
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I’m not sure if you’re being serious about half the things you said…
Regarding the 49er’s offensive line, how can you say that given the fact that every position on the line except for LT and one of the guards is a down grade from last season? You really think Jordan Devey is better than Iupati? Or that Erik Pears is better than Davis? You are debating that?
As for their defense, good luck. Decimated is putting it kindly. Again, huge downgrades in all three levels of the defense.
Not to mention, the Rams and Seahawks are better than the 49ers. Hands down.
As for Seattle, did you even watch the game? Yes, Seattle’s D has a drop off without Chancelleor, but did they look like a team who was about to implode? That was probably the best game of the week, two NFC heavyweights going at it. As for the on-side kick, Carrol thought his defense would hold them to at least a FG (which they did), and that his offense could at the least match it (which they didn’t). But hey, I know how easy it is to second guess from the couch after the fact.
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I thought San Fran looked pretty good last night. And, Hyde had himself a great game and looked to me that he will be making a statement this year.
Do you feel it was a fluke?
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Do I feel what was a fluke? Hyde? I don’t recall saying anything about Hyde. Their win? I don’t recall saying anything about them never winning any games.
They were at home and played an opponent who who went 31-48-1 the last five seasons. The Vikings have made the playoffs once (as a wildcard) in the last five seasons and have finished 4th in the division three times in the last five seasons.[/quote]
Who also “ON PAPER” made improvements to every position group on defense.
I still feel very comfortable with how I see things playing out. Get out of the stat sheets and watch some football and make some observations.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Didn’t help they were playing against the ref’s too.
I try not to bitch about officiating, but there were some pretty shit calls in that game. (ATL got boned a couple times too.)[/quote]
Yeah I tend to not put much weight on officiating either…the players on the field still need to execute, even when the refs are imposing strict calls (or lack of). Last night it appeared they were pretty strict on some holding calls inside the shoulders, and according to Mike and Mike this morning, that was essentially their game plan to call those more. And more than one of those badly hurt the big drives the Eagles had going in the 2nd half.
Regardless, players need to adapt and make adjustments. No different than batters vs. an umpire’s strike zone. However, the refs missed a couple head-to-head calls that I wasn’t happy about.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]daltron wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]daltron wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]daltron wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]daltron wrote:
SEA @ STL was phenomenal. Great win for the Rams at home. I don’t think they will, but if they replicate that success in Seattle then they will take the division. With the 49ers having a down year, it’s nice to see there is still competition for the division title in the NFC West.[/quote]
I would not count out San Fran yet. I think Hyde will have a top 5 back year for the niners.
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The 49er’s roster has been decimated by free agency, surprise retirements, and cuts. They will not be in contention for the playoffs this year I imagine. That, and people severely underestimate the departure of Jim Harbaugh, liked or unliked. Besides, the Rams have gotten better. I would not be surprised in the least if the 49ers are last in the division.
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Yeah, I am aware of what the niners have lost. Harbaugh was a great fit for that team for a while. His style of coaching does not stay efficient for very long at the pro level. 4-5 years. The niners offensive line has the potential to be dominant again this year and I believe Hyde will have a minimum top 5 back year behind that line. Kap isn’t an elite QB but he can win in this league at his talent level. Defense is where they will feel the most impact. All they have to do is be mediocre and they have a shot to at least compete for their division.
Seattle is about to implode. I know you say that the play call in the super bowl was the right call. There really isn’t any other way to put it, you are wrong. The players on that team know it too. Add to that the way Russell Wilson has been given too much credit for their success (Rodgers is the only QB in the league who makes more than Wison). Their line is bellow average. Their defense is not near the same without Kam. They just lost the opening game when in overtime their coach either called or allowed an onside kick attempt. Dude, really? You can’t defend that call at all if you are being serious.
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I’m not sure if you’re being serious about half the things you said…
Regarding the 49er’s offensive line, how can you say that given the fact that every position on the line except for LT and one of the guards is a down grade from last season? You really think Jordan Devey is better than Iupati? Or that Erik Pears is better than Davis? You are debating that?
As for their defense, good luck. Decimated is putting it kindly. Again, huge downgrades in all three levels of the defense.
Not to mention, the Rams and Seahawks are better than the 49ers. Hands down.
As for Seattle, did you even watch the game? Yes, Seattle’s D has a drop off without Chancelleor, but did they look like a team who was about to implode? That was probably the best game of the week, two NFC heavyweights going at it. As for the on-side kick, Carrol thought his defense would hold them to at least a FG (which they did), and that his offense could at the least match it (which they didn’t). But hey, I know how easy it is to second guess from the couch after the fact.
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I thought San Fran looked pretty good last night. And, Hyde had himself a great game and looked to me that he will be making a statement this year.
Do you feel it was a fluke?
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Do I feel what was a fluke? Hyde? I don’t recall saying anything about Hyde. Their win? I don’t recall saying anything about them never winning any games.
They were at home and played an opponent who who went 31-48-1 the last five seasons. The Vikings have made the playoffs once (as a wildcard) in the last five seasons and have finished 4th in the division three times in the last five seasons.[/quote]
Who also “ON PAPER” made improvements to every position group on defense.
I still feel very comfortable with how I see things playing out. Get out of the stat sheets and watch some football and make some observations. [/quote]
lol, you’re a riot. See you at their bye week. Remember, below .500
[quote]pushharder wrote:
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Giants got robbed.[/quote]
I read today that Sheili Manning told Rashad Jennings not to score on the first two run plays down there so they could run the clock more. Then the dumbass goes and throws an incomplete pass on third down.[/quote]
I agree but the the ticky tack PI call earlier in the game against the G’s followed by the blatant, textbook example (classic example that gets called 95% of the time at every level of football from PeeWee up) of PI that was NOT called in the final ultra critical seconds of the game makes for a very stark contrast.[/quote]
If you are talking about that last incompletion it wasn’t called because it wasn’t a catchable ball. If Eli would have just thrown it right over his head it would have been called.
[quote]daltron wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]daltron wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]daltron wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]daltron wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
[quote]daltron wrote:
SEA @ STL was phenomenal. Great win for the Rams at home. I don’t think they will, but if they replicate that success in Seattle then they will take the division. With the 49ers having a down year, it’s nice to see there is still competition for the division title in the NFC West.[/quote]
I would not count out San Fran yet. I think Hyde will have a top 5 back year for the niners.
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The 49er’s roster has been decimated by free agency, surprise retirements, and cuts. They will not be in contention for the playoffs this year I imagine. That, and people severely underestimate the departure of Jim Harbaugh, liked or unliked. Besides, the Rams have gotten better. I would not be surprised in the least if the 49ers are last in the division.
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Yeah, I am aware of what the niners have lost. Harbaugh was a great fit for that team for a while. His style of coaching does not stay efficient for very long at the pro level. 4-5 years. The niners offensive line has the potential to be dominant again this year and I believe Hyde will have a minimum top 5 back year behind that line. Kap isn’t an elite QB but he can win in this league at his talent level. Defense is where they will feel the most impact. All they have to do is be mediocre and they have a shot to at least compete for their division.
Seattle is about to implode. I know you say that the play call in the super bowl was the right call. There really isn’t any other way to put it, you are wrong. The players on that team know it too. Add to that the way Russell Wilson has been given too much credit for their success (Rodgers is the only QB in the league who makes more than Wison). Their line is bellow average. Their defense is not near the same without Kam. They just lost the opening game when in overtime their coach either called or allowed an onside kick attempt. Dude, really? You can’t defend that call at all if you are being serious.
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I’m not sure if you’re being serious about half the things you said…
Regarding the 49er’s offensive line, how can you say that given the fact that every position on the line except for LT and one of the guards is a down grade from last season? You really think Jordan Devey is better than Iupati? Or that Erik Pears is better than Davis? You are debating that?
As for their defense, good luck. Decimated is putting it kindly. Again, huge downgrades in all three levels of the defense.
Not to mention, the Rams and Seahawks are better than the 49ers. Hands down.
As for Seattle, did you even watch the game? Yes, Seattle’s D has a drop off without Chancelleor, but did they look like a team who was about to implode? That was probably the best game of the week, two NFC heavyweights going at it. As for the on-side kick, Carrol thought his defense would hold them to at least a FG (which they did), and that his offense could at the least match it (which they didn’t). But hey, I know how easy it is to second guess from the couch after the fact.
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I thought San Fran looked pretty good last night. And, Hyde had himself a great game and looked to me that he will be making a statement this year.
Do you feel it was a fluke?
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Do I feel what was a fluke? Hyde? I don’t recall saying anything about Hyde. Their win? I don’t recall saying anything about them never winning any games.
They were at home and played an opponent who who went 31-48-1 the last five seasons. The Vikings have made the playoffs once (as a wildcard) in the last five seasons and have finished 4th in the division three times in the last five seasons.[/quote]
Who also “ON PAPER” made improvements to every position group on defense.
I still feel very comfortable with how I see things playing out. Get out of the stat sheets and watch some football and make some observations. [/quote]
lol, you’re a riot. See you at their bye week. Remember, below .500[/quote]
Sounds good. Looking forward to it.
[quote]HeyWaj10 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Didn’t help they were playing against the ref’s too.
I try not to bitch about officiating, but there were some pretty shit calls in that game. (ATL got boned a couple times too.)[/quote]
Yeah I tend to not put much weight on officiating either…the players on the field still need to execute, even when the refs are imposing strict calls (or lack of). Last night it appeared they were pretty strict on some holding calls inside the shoulders, and according to Mike and Mike this morning, that was essentially their game plan to call those more. And more than one of those badly hurt the big drives the Eagles had going in the 2nd half.
Regardless, players need to adapt and make adjustments. No different than batters vs. an umpire’s strike zone. However, the refs missed a couple head-to-head calls that I wasn’t happy about. [/quote]
I was not expecting the Eagles to look like that bad.
Julio Jones is a beast though. They said he is 6’3 230#s, he looks 6’5-6’6 to me
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Julio Jones is a beast though. They said he is 6’3 230#s, he looks 6’5-6’6 to me[/quote]
Not to thread jack, but this is a fitness site.
Everytime i see these WRs, and DBs it makes me want to jump off the couch and load up the weights.
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Julio Jones is a beast though. They said he is 6’3 230#s, he looks 6’5-6’6 to me[/quote]
I think it’s because he has long ass arms, so it makes him seem a hell of a lot taller than he is. I’m pretty sure there was a shot the other night where dude’s arms reach his knees… Where mine are like mid thigh.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]mbdix wrote:
Julio Jones is a beast though. They said he is 6’3 230#s, he looks 6’5-6’6 to me[/quote]
I think it’s because he has long ass arms, so it makes him seem a hell of a lot taller than he is. I’m pretty sure there was a shot the other night where dude’s arms reach his knees… Where mine are like mid thigh. [/quote]
HaHa it must be arms. That boy good though.