[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Yep agreed. Kap needs a FIRM QB coach or head coach. He has degraded dramatically. [/quote]
Sad to say, it’s even more fundamental than that. Now, if we kept hearing about him not showing professional-level diligence towards practice/film study and preparation, being a diva (RGIII comes to mind) and so on… now those are the type of issues that coaching could shore up.
But with Kap, what we are consistently seeing is an inability to read defenses, go through progressions, and just simply adapt to the reality that defensive coordinators have adjusted to YOU and your tendencies. They literally spend all week crafting ways to disguise concepts and confuse and exploit the opposing QB, obviously.
Successful QBs (and their OCs) are of course absorbing all of this and adapting in-between drives, and it really just speaks to the mental aspect of QB’ing that might sometimes get taken for granted. Esp with the best ones, who can sometimes make it look awfully easy out there.
I’m not going to lie because the Chargers have been pretty bad, but they had 12 guys leave the game at some point due to injury. Is there something in the water or what!?!
Really surprised there hasn’t been a fire sale of more players, although who knows what happens tomorrow.[/quote]
Kap is benched. I cannnot fucking believe they benched their franchise QB. I hate the 49ers, but I think this disintegration of the team may be on purpose. I think they may be tanking. Have they ever seen Gabbert play? He’s terrible.
I never thought I would say this, but I feel bad for Kap.
What happened to developing QB’s? These days a QB has a few bad games and they are benched. That’s stupid, you’ll never develop your guy if you bench the poor bastard the second he does bad.
The 9er’s weren’t going to be good this year. Perfect year to develop some new talent, make some trades and and build a team around the draft where your sure to have a high pick.
Last time Atlanta played Gabbert, we left an imprint of him on the field, and we had not pass rush then either.
Atlanta is not playing well right now. Kap had roasted us in the past. We’ve roasted Gabbert everytime we’ve seen him.
So they are replacing a QB we have had problems with, with a QB that we have owned. Does Jim Tomsula have money on the game? I swear he is throwing it.
It Alex Smith wasn’t such a classy guy, he’d be laughing his ass off right now. Who knows, maybe he’s just classy in public and he actually laughing his ass off.
Unreal.
Tomsula to the team:
“Men, we have had some tough times this year and we have taken it on the chin more than once. The measure of a man isn’t how you act when you win, it’s how you act when you lose in humiliating fashion every game for the rest of the year. We are building toughness over here. And nothing is tougher than losing every game by 50 points or more and going 9 quarters between every score which will only be a field goal.
O’line, when the balls snaps, just stand there, if they get around you, oh well. Gabbert, with every snap, run like hell because they are bringing 11 every time and it’s going to work.
Defense, fuck it, don’t do shit. Think about your golf game.
Men, we’re going to lose every fucking game, handle it with class. And Kap, go fuck yourself.You are a 100 million dollar seat warmer. Make sure you keep Gabbert’s seat warm and bring him ice, alot.
Men, now is when we show to the world, how to act when you get humiliated. Hold your heads up high, cause we’re going to lose and lose hard.”
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Yep agreed. Kap needs a FIRM QB coach or head coach. He has degraded dramatically. [/quote]
Sad to say, it’s even more fundamental than that. Now, if we kept hearing about him not showing professional-level diligence towards practice/film study and preparation, being a diva (RGIII comes to mind) and so on… now those are the type of issues that coaching could shore up.
But with Kap, what we are consistently seeing is an inability to read defenses, go through progressions, and just simply adapt to the reality that defensive coordinators have adjusted to YOU and your tendencies. They literally spend all week crafting ways to disguise concepts and confuse and exploit the opposing QB, obviously.
Successful QBs (and their OCs) are of course absorbing all of this and adapting in-between drives, and it really just speaks to the mental aspect of QB’ing that might sometimes get taken for granted. Esp with the best ones, who can sometimes make it look awfully easy out there.
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Agreed. I would also add though Kap came from a smaller school and spread. Harbaugh was calling everything from the sidelines and Kap just couldnt make the next step. Does he have the football IQ to make the next step? I have no idea, but some GM/HC in the league is going to go after him cause they think they can coach him up.
When we get Romo back, I’d take that bet. Yes, I’m serious.
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lol. The Cowboys of the 90’s would have had a hard time beating that team last night. (I do believe they would have though.)[/quote]
I actually didn’t watch the Broncos vs Packers. I had enough football after that Cowboy game
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Understandable. I don’t have a routing interest in either team and I was drained too.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Agreed. I would also add though Kap came from a smaller school and spread. Harbaugh was calling everything from the sidelines and Kap just couldnt make the next step. Does he have the football IQ to make the next step? I have no idea, but some GM/HC in the league is going to go after him cause they think they can coach him up.[/quote]
Definitely. He’s still got all the physical tools in the world.
[quote]pat wrote:
I never thought I would say this, but I feel bad for Kap.
What happened to developing QB’s? These days a QB has a few bad games and they are benched. That’s stupid, you’ll never develop your guy if you bench the poor bastard the second he does bad.
The 9er’s weren’t going to be good this year. Perfect year to develop some new talent, make some trades and and build a team around the draft where your sure to have a high pick.[/quote]
Thing is, they’ve been trying to develop him this whole time. They reportedly dumbed down their offense in order to help him succeed, though that (predictably) backfired as soon as defenses figured out what was going on. (see: that CB blitz from the Rams DEF this past sunday). But when your QB has lost his confidence and is playing not to lose (ie. he hadn’t thrown an INT in quite awhile but that’s because he wasn’t attempting anything that wasn’t completely clean), maybe you gotta make that change.
In Kap’s defense though, that unathletic OL has done him no favors at all.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Agreed. I would also add though Kap came from a smaller school and spread. Harbaugh was calling everything from the sidelines and Kap just couldnt make the next step. Does he have the football IQ to make the next step? I have no idea, but some GM/HC in the league is going to go after him cause they think they can coach him up.[/quote]
Definitely. He’s still got all the physical tools in the world.
[quote]pat wrote:
I never thought I would say this, but I feel bad for Kap.
What happened to developing QB’s? These days a QB has a few bad games and they are benched. That’s stupid, you’ll never develop your guy if you bench the poor bastard the second he does bad.
The 9er’s weren’t going to be good this year. Perfect year to develop some new talent, make some trades and and build a team around the draft where your sure to have a high pick.[/quote]
Thing is, they’ve been trying to develop him this whole time. They reportedly dumbed down their offense in order to help him succeed, though that (predictably) backfired as soon as defenses figured out what was going on. (see: that CB blitz from the Rams DEF this past sunday). But when your QB has lost his confidence and is playing not to lose (ie. he hadn’t thrown an INT in quite awhile but that’s because he wasn’t attempting anything that wasn’t completely clean), maybe you gotta make that change.
In Kap’s defense though, that unathletic OL has done him no favors at all.
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In Kap’s defense, the 49er’s bled talent all off season. And I don’t believe you dump a QB because he’s in a slump, he has to work through that shit.
Think about the great QB’s that never would have been if they weren’t allow to suck for time. Brett Favre sticks out to me as a prime example. He stunk in the beginning.
Kap’s never known failure until now. Now it’s time he be a man and take it on the chin and grow. Otherwise it was a complete waste for them to get rid of Alex Smith in lieu of Kap.
Also, Gabbert sucks. I have never seem him do anything but suck. Hey, they are playing my team this weekend and we need a beatable team to get our feet back under us. And we hate the 9er’s so it’s perfect for us. Meaning, we’d better fucking win.
[quote]doogie wrote:
But at least he can rush the QB, right mbdix?
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This will most likely the last time I respond to one of your direct post to me. I have answered several of your last direct questions with no response on your part to my answers. I’m sure you don’t care about that, and I don’t care either, I just wanted to just put that out there so we both have an understanding of why I possibly start ignoring your post directed at me. If you choose to respond and start to have discussions with me after this response then obviously we can continue and move on in future discussions. Basically, you have two strikes with me right now and this pitch will be right down the middle, either you swing and miss and strike out, or you make contact and continue your at bat.
This is a very important topic. It is important on many different fronts. I know and understand no one should be abused. No one should be abused in any setting.
Whether Greg Hardy committed the allegations as described or not, one thing I will say I believe is that he is at least partly responsible for the outcome. At the very least he could have alerted the front security staff that the female in this situation was no longer allowed on property and to not allow her access to his floor for any reason, prior to the confrontation.
The only person that has assigned me any responsibility in deciding guilt or innocence in this case is you. Asking me if I DENY that Hardy did these things to her or not. ( I really have a hard time understanding this thought process. I actually think this type of thought process is a major flaw with our current society.)
I would not be surprised at all if everything that happened that night is not 100% as Hardy described. I also would not be surprised at all if everything that happened that night is not 100% as Holder described. I have not been sat down in a jury box, presented with both sides evidence and asked to do my job as a selected juror to decide guilt or innocence. No one has or will in this case because it was dismissed, and now expunged. I do not have any obligation to anyone to come up with a guilty or innocent verdict in this case, and I think that anyone who takes it upon themselves to assign a 100% guilty or innocent verdict in this case is wasting their energy on it. You can think all that you want, that you have the answer and that you know what took place. What I do know for 100% certainty is that you DO NOT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT That is fact.
Now, since I can not know for certain know what happened and the process has been carried out and has been settled by all parties, I choose to not spend any energy trying to determine how I feel about Hardy as a man. Yes, at this point and moving forward all I am concerned with regarding Hardy is how he does on the football field and how he lives in my community from now on.
What I wish would happen in this case for Hardy is redemption.
“Emancipate yourself from mental slavery; None but ourselves can free our minds.”
Rebuttal please. Or keep my name out of your mouth
[quote]daltron wrote:
Not that it made a difference, but that (non) forward progress call for GB was quite interesting.[/quote]
Denver is winning the whole fucking thing if they play like they did last night going forward. They will be 19-0 if they can duplicate that performance.
That defense was insane. [/quote]
Their defense is quite impressive. Wade Phillips usually does a great job defensively, but that combination of pass rush and corner play is outstanding.
Pretty dramatic drop in performance for Manning though this season. Love that Moneyball quote: We’re all told at some point in time that we can no longer play the children’s game, we just don’t… don’t know when that’s gonna be. Some of us are told at eighteen, some of us are told at forty, but we’re all told. [/quote]
Maybe Phillips should talk to Kubiak about bringing in Rob Johnson to replace Manning in the playoffs.
This is a very important topic. It is important on many different fronts.[/quote]
What are those fronts in your mind? Is one of them the way people are willing to bend over backwards and do pathetic mental gymnastics in order to not place judgement on woman beaters? Is one of them the fact that some people seem to think that production in a fucking game can bring forgiveness for beating the shit out of a woman?
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I know and understand no one should be abused. No one should be abused in any setting. [/quote]
But she clearly was in THIS setting. Look at those pictures. She’s bruised literally from head to foot, front and back. That was a sustained beating. It wasn’t a situation like Ray Rice where he got spit on, snapped, and threw a single punch without thinking. Hardy beat her ass for awhile.
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Whether Greg Hardy committed the allegations as described or not, one thing I will say I believe is that he is at least partly responsible for the outcome.[/quote]
At least PARTLY responsible? Partly? So you think some of the blame could have been hers? What could she have done in your mind that in some way makes her responsible for the specific outcome that occurred here? What could SHE have done to justify the beating he gave her resulting in these specific injuries? Those aren’t bruises inflected when a 6’4", 280lb athlete tried to restrain a MAYBE 120lb woman who was attacking him. You know damn well that’s true. So please be specific in how you think she could be partly to blame for that bruising.
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The only person that has assigned me any responsibility in deciding guilt or innocence in this case is you. [/quote]
That is because I’m a Cowboys fan who thinks people like you are an embarrassment. Let me quote you from 10/27, “I became a bigger fan of Hardy over this weekend and I hope he does get extended.” You are a fucking FAN of this piece of shit. You think football is more important than morals. That’s disgusting.
You think passing judgement on people who have been CONVICTED in court of beating the shit out of a woman is a major flaw with our current society?
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I would not be surprised at all if everything that happened that night is not 100% as Hardy described. I also would not be surprised at all if everything that happened that night is not 100% as Holder described. I have not been sat down in a jury box, presented with both sides evidence and asked to do my job as a selected juror to decide guilt or innocence. No one has or will in this case because it was dismissed, and now expunged. [/quote]
A Harvard educated JUDGE sat down, was presented with both sides’ evidence, was asked to do his job as a judge, and decided GUILT. How do you ignore that? You think that doesn’t mean anything because some stupid quirk of state law allows you to be found guilty once by a judge who is educated in law and then get a second chance to get off in front of a jury? Why do you ignore the conviction that occurred?
Fucking pathetic. Especially since you ONLY feel that way because Jerry Jones was slimy enough to sign Hardy. If he was in Phili now, you know you wouldn’t be so forgiving.
And be clear, I don’t give a fat baby’s dick if I get a third strike with you and you ignore me forever. Holy shit, that is stupid.
Holy shit is it bad this year. In the Buffalo game, they give the Bills a gift horse collar call, and then, don’t give the same fucking tackle a flag when Buffalo is on D.
Then, and this pisses me off more, on the next play they flag Buffalo on a bullshit hit to a receiver, which I can only assume is to make up for the fuckign up of the horse collar.
The Refs are god awful this year and it’s annoying. [/quote]
Ya. It’s horrible in every game I’ve seen. Makes it even harder watching the most penalized team in the league. Getting a lot of extra calls against this year in Buffalo in what I can only assume is a self perpetuating Bills get flagged a lot->Bills have rep for penalties->Bills get flagged a lot perpetual circle of what the fuck. Phantom PI against Robey on 3rd and 15 in jacksonville on game losing drive was inexcusable.
Really tough sledding as a Bills fan this year. Rex is still trying to be a fancy pants, and it’s resulting in the most under achieving D in the league. Doesn’t help safety, and line backer play has been so sloppy. Darby is the highlight of the year so far though. Has the same strengths and weaknesses as Gilmore (excellent in coverage, bad hands make you yell at the tv), but I’ve been really impressed watching him. Really gonna be interesting to see McKelvin back. That’s a heck of a 1-2-3 corner back set for the rest of the year. Not that it’s going to help when teams continue to attack the linebackers while Dareus drops into coverage, and McKelvin Blitzes. Zone blitzes are painful to watch. Liability most of the game so you can watch a safety murder the QB once a week the one time it works.
This stuff about the Lions contemplating letting Stafford go is nuts. I don’t follow college ball. Is there another Brees → Rivers, or Manning-> Luck in the works over there? (Not that I put Stafford in that tier, but he IS good). Franchise QBs are hard to come by. If I were them I’d just be looking for an OC who isn’t afraid to make use of his strengths by throwing the damned football down the field. Lions OC should be one of the easiest jobs in the league. How hard can it be to draw up Stafford to Johnson / Tate all day long?
[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
This stuff about the Lions contemplating letting Stafford go is nuts. I don’t follow college ball. Is there another Brees → Rivers, or Manning-> Luck in the works over there? (Not that I put Stafford in that tier, but he IS good). Franchise QBs are hard to come by. If I were them I’d just be looking for an OC who isn’t afraid to make use of his strengths by throwing the damned football down the field. Lions OC should be one of the easiest jobs in the league. How hard can it be to draw up Stafford to Johnson / Tate all day long?[/quote]
Not sure it’s accurate, but heard on radio it would clear up $19 million cap space and $10 cash. If you get maybe a first and third for him, you’d have to think about it. You’re going to have a high first round pick this year to grab a new guy for sure. Not sure who’d I want out of this class, though.