2015 NFL Off Season

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

What Dr. P did was simply take that position to it’s logical conclusion.[/quote]

No, he took it to hyperbole land to try and frame my point as ridiculous. I can’t for the life of me think of the logical fallacy this is, but it is one, lol.

When in fact, neither my point nor enjoyment of the game are ridiculous. What’s ridiculous is the amount of energy, effort and most importantly resources (including time) is spent on games and entertainment.

If I use this “a lot” then so be it. Doesn’t make me wrong. [/quote]

All of those other forms of entertainment require the same amount of energy, effort, and most importantly resources (including time), as football. All of those resources could be allocated to bettering society. It’s the same thing.

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He doesn’t hit a fallacy until the word “abolish”.

Our love of entertainment is absurd, considering how little of it is art, and how much is just consumerism for consumerism’s sake…

I love pop radio, love it. Like a 12 year old girl. Doesn’t mean I think any of it is art. Doesn’t mean I want to bond with my kids over the next iteration of “I want to fuck and do drugs” over a catchy beat.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

What Dr. P did was simply take that position to it’s logical conclusion.[/quote]

No, he took it to hyperbole land to try and frame my point as ridiculous. I can’t for the life of me think of the logical fallacy this is, but it is one, lol.

When in fact, neither my point nor enjoyment of the game are ridiculous. What’s ridiculous is the amount of energy, effort and most importantly resources (including time) is spent on games and entertainment.

If I use this “a lot” then so be it. Doesn’t make me wrong. [/quote]

All of those other forms of entertainment require the same amount of energy, effort, and most importantly resources (including time), as football. All of those resources could be allocated to bettering society. It’s the same thing.

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He doesn’t hit a fallacy until the word “abolish”. [/quote]

Fair enough, I didn’t pick up on that before.

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Our love of entertainment is absurd, considering how little of it is art, and how much is just consumerism for consumerism’s sake… [/quote]

I don’t disagree. We have a lot more time on our hands than our ancestors did, it’s relatively new territory.

I respect that that is how you want to live your life, but can’t you see the opposite perspective is also a viable option. Maybe bonding over “I want to fuck and do drugs” is the only way some dads are able to bond with their kids…

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Maybe bonding over “I want to fuck and do drugs” is the only way some dads are able to bond with their kids… [/quote]

lol, I know I’m being over the top in this thread, but come on lol. No way this is the case.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Maybe bonding over “I want to fuck and do drugs” is the only way some dads are able to bond with their kids… [/quote]

lol, I know I’m being over the top in this thread, but come on lol. No way this is the case. [/quote]

You can’t imagine a scenario where a father and daughter are at odds over everything except, says, Marvin Gaye?

Hell, I hope you’re right, I’m entering the father club soon so…

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’m entering the father club soon so…[/quote]

COngrats,

And Marvin Gaye, if not art is pretty damn close.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I’m entering the father club soon so…[/quote]

COngrats,

And Marvin Gaye, if not art is pretty damn close. [/quote]

Thanks!

Lol, Marvin’s not bad.

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
If you’re going to rail against the NFL then you need to be prepared to argue that every form of entertainment should be abolished so that the proceeds can be applied towards…what was it? Cancer research?

No TV, no movies, no books, no music, no sports of any kind, no theater. In fact, no forms of recreation at all until we’ve defeated cancer.

As an aside, the season starts in 108 days, 5 hours, 21 minutes, and 30 seconds. Sorry, man, but leukemia is going to have to wait.

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Hit the nail on the head.

It is just a game, but it kind of is more than just a game.

The Kardashev scale theorizes that in a type III civilization “entertainers” will have even more status, and power than today. I believe it’s theory is they will be the most powerfull people in their civilization.

Sooooo… Football… amirite?

Miami signed Tannehill through 2020 with $45MM guaranteed. With the dearth of QBs in the league and a weak pipeline, it was a strong signing. Good for the Dolphins and Tannehill.

Also, team owners are listening to 3 different proposals to change the PAT over the next few days.

From MMQB:

The NFL competition committee proposes moving the PAT kick attempt back to the 15 yard line. A blocked PAT or a fumbled/intercepted 2 point attempt could by run back by the defense for 2 points. This would be a 1 year trial. Kicking PATs succeed about %98 of the time whereas 32 yard FGs succeed %90 of the time.

New England’s proposal is the same as the NFL’s CC except the defense can’t score and the rule would be permanent.

Eagles want the line of scrimmage for the 2 point attempt to be at the 1 instead of the 2. One year trial period.

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Miami signed Tannehill through 2020 with $45MM guaranteed. With the dearth of QBs in the league and a weak pipeline, it was a strong signing. Good for the Dolphins and Tannehill.[/quote]
I think Tannehill is a good QB and has potential to get better. He is a qb I believe any coach in the league would be content with. Lock him down financially and build your team around him. Good signing

[quote]mbdix wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Miami signed Tannehill through 2020 with $45MM guaranteed. With the dearth of QBs in the league and a weak pipeline, it was a strong signing. Good for the Dolphins and Tannehill.[/quote]
I think Tannehill is a good QB and has potential to get better. He is a qb I believe any coach in the league would be content with. Lock him down financially and build your team around him. Good signing
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Pretty expensive for someone that’s done nothing really.

In 2014, Tannehill started every game and completed 392-of-590 (66.4 percent) passes for 4,045 yards with 27 touchdowns and 12 interceptions, for a 92.8 passer rating. He also added 56 rushes for 311 yards and one touchdown. His completions, attempts, completion percentage, passing yards, passing touchdowns, passer rating and rushing yards were all career highs.

Further, his 92.8 passer rating was the fifth-highest single-season figure in Dolphins history, his 392 completions set a franchise single-season record, his 66.4 completion percentage was the second-highest single-season completion percentage in team history, his 4,045 passing yards were the seventh-highest single-season total by a Dolphins player and most since 1994, and his 27 touchdown passes were the sixth-most in a season in Dolphins history and also the most since 1994.

The QB market is tight. If you have someone you think you can build around, you lock them in.

Unless you think the 'fins should have spent some of that money on cancer research…

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:

Unless you think the 'fins should have spent some of that money on cancer research…
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Before Strungoutlapdog comes along and cheerleads your fallacy some more. Don’t “bow out” of a conversation and then come back with cheap shot.

You know your entire post was a fallacy, that’s why you scooted off in the first place, but now you want to try and ride a internet high horse with this bullshit?

EDIT: Logically Fallacious - Webpages

Remembered.

Simmer down, beansie, it was a joke.

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Simmer down, beansie, it was a joke.

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I’m still super butthurt about this entire disaster obvi lol.

Sorry.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Simmer down, beansie, it was a joke.

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I’m still super butthurt about this entire disaster obvi lol.

Sorry. [/quote]

lolololololol

I’d take Tannehill over john football anyday.

The Tannehill signing is great for the Fins whether or not you think he’s some stud. “The Market” is about to get blown the fuck up when Wilson and Luck get their paydays, so anyone with a young QB is smart to get them inked before there’s the albatross contracts out there for them to point to. This happens all the time within each position.

That’s also why the Hawks probably need to get Wilson inked soon as well. Sources are saying he wants top QB in the league money, which while expensive anytime, is about to get much more expensive.