Tebow throws like a girl, and is not a QB.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Tebow throws like a girl, and is not a QB. [/quote]
That may be true, but I have a feeling Tebow will have more career playoff wins than Johnny.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Tebow throws like a girl, and is not a QB. [/quote]
That may be true, but I have a feeling Tebow will have more career playoff wins than Johnny.[/quote]
i’d agree with that, and i would also rather have tebow on my team than john football. But tebow throws like shit.
This is more debatable:
The whole Tebowing thing may not sit well with some front office.
A franchise quarterback is often the face of the team. It’s one thing for him to be a God fearing man but wearing it on his sleeves may turn off certain fan base who don’t subscribe to his religious beliefs.
Of course, no one is dumb enough to publicly say they won’t hire the guy for this; that’s a PR nightmare. But they’re also shrewd enough to know that a quarterback, ideally, should have a broad public appeal. This is why Vick will forever be damaged goods.
And there’s the inability to thow the damn ball I already mentioned.
[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:
This is more debatable:
The whole Tebowing thing may not sit well with some front office.
A franchise quarterback is often the face of the team. It’s one thing for him to be a God fearing man but wearing it on his sleeves may turn off certain fan base who don’t subscribe to his religious beliefs.
Of course, no one is dumb enough to publicly say they won’t hire the guy for this; that’s a PR nightmare. But they’re also shrewd enough to know that a quarterback, ideally, should have a broad public appeal. This is why Vick will forever be damaged goods.
And there’s that being able to thow the damn ball thing I already mentioned.[/quote]
Well I can bet the majority of football players are religious. You can tell by when they interview them. They always thank God first. I’m not a religious person and it doesn’t bother me.
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:
This is more debatable:
The whole Tebowing thing may not sit well with some front office.
A franchise quarterback is often the face of the team. It’s one thing for him to be a God fearing man but wearing it on his sleeves may turn off certain fan base who don’t subscribe to his religious beliefs.
Of course, no one is dumb enough to publicly say they won’t hire the guy for this; that’s a PR nightmare. But they’re also shrewd enough to know that a quarterback, ideally, should have a broad public appeal. This is why Vick will forever be damaged goods.
And there’s that being able to thow the damn ball thing I already mentioned.[/quote]
Well I can bet the majority of football players are religious. You can tell by when they interview them. They always thank God first. I’m not a religious person and it doesn’t bother me. [/quote]
That’s why I said its’ more debatable.
There was this one gym I went to when Tebow and the Broncos were making their run. The Saturday front desk guy was a die hard Notre Dame fan. I never asked what his religion is but every time Tebow came up in conversation, he went into a rant about Tebowing. Made me wonder if this otherwise cool and intelligent guy was so put off by it, he can’t be the only one.
Whether or not this has any merit, the one fact is Tebow had his chance in the NFL and he couldn’t pass like other franchise QBs.
edited for clarification
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:
This is more debatable:
The whole Tebowing thing may not sit well with some front office.
A franchise quarterback is often the face of the team. It’s one thing for him to be a God fearing man but wearing it on his sleeves may turn off certain fan base who don’t subscribe to his religious beliefs.
Of course, no one is dumb enough to publicly say they won’t hire the guy for this; that’s a PR nightmare. But they’re also shrewd enough to know that a quarterback, ideally, should have a broad public appeal. This is why Vick will forever be damaged goods.
And there’s that being able to thow the damn ball thing I already mentioned.[/quote]
Well I can bet the majority of football players are religious. You can tell by when they interview them. They always thank God first. I’m not a religious person and it doesn’t bother me. [/quote]
Yeah, Tebow wasn’t even the prayer leader for the Broncos when he was there. And well before Tebow was Tebow, you could catch the prayer circles after games behind guys being interviewed. That’s been going on for a long time.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:
This is more debatable:
The whole Tebowing thing may not sit well with some front office.
A franchise quarterback is often the face of the team. It’s one thing for him to be a God fearing man but wearing it on his sleeves may turn off certain fan base who don’t subscribe to his religious beliefs.
Of course, no one is dumb enough to publicly say they won’t hire the guy for this; that’s a PR nightmare. But they’re also shrewd enough to know that a quarterback, ideally, should have a broad public appeal. This is why Vick will forever be damaged goods.
And there’s that being able to thow the damn ball thing I already mentioned.[/quote]
Well I can bet the majority of football players are religious. You can tell by when they interview them. They always thank God first. I’m not a religious person and it doesn’t bother me. [/quote]
Yeah, Tebow wasn’t even the prayer leader for the Broncos when he was there. And well before Tebow was Tebow, you could catch the prayer circles after games behind guys being interviewed. That’s been going on for a long time. [/quote]
Yeah but Tebow, unless I’m mistaken, was the guy who popularized the kneeling and giving thanks after each touch down. And that’s when Tebowing took off.
I don’t disagree that many NFL players are religious. But pro football (like any pro sports) is a business. And I just have this theory that some front office personnel may feel that Tebowing and Tebow-mania could put off certain portion of the fan base who don’t subscribe to his beliefs. And it’s very convenient that he can’t throw like Brees or Manning. So the end result is his phone never rings.
Pittsburgh RB’s Bell and Blount both arrested for marijuana possession as well as a marijuana DUI for Bell. Frigging retards.
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Pittsburgh RB’s Bell and Blount both arrested for marijuana possession as well as a marijuana DUI for Bell. Frigging retards.[/quote]
Who would have guessed a guy named legarrette blount would be smoking weed. Dude if you are making that much money, can’t you not smoke it for awhile or find better ways to get around it?
Also, saw the Browns picked Hoyer to start game 1 of the season. I think it’s a smart move by them. See what Hoyer can do for you and if or when he fails, put in Manziel. I can see Manziel getting the starter job maybe by week 7 against the Jags unless something bad happens to Hoyer. Their first three games are against the Steelers, Saints, and Ravens. Three teams that might make Manziel look bad.
[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:
Yeah but Tebow, unless I’m mistaken, was the guy who popularized the kneeling and giving thanks after each touch down. And that’s when Tebowing took off.
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To be fair I’d say the media popularized it.
Anyway not to keep harping on old news. It just seems crazy to me that a team wouldn’t want a person of his caliber on their roster. Instead teams would rather have guys that punch their fiances, get popped for DWI for smoking weed, or spending time in prison for dog fighting.
I just don’t get it.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:
Yeah but Tebow, unless I’m mistaken, was the guy who popularized the kneeling and giving thanks after each touch down. And that’s when Tebowing took off.
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To be fair I’d say the media popularized it.
Anyway not to keep harping on old news. It just seems crazy to me that a team wouldn’t want a person of his caliber on their roster. Instead teams would rather have guys that punch their fiances, get popped for DWI for smoking weed, or spending time in prison for dog fighting.
I just don’t get it. [/quote]
He just cant make the throws. PERIOD
I am not digging up the threads but I said this shit years ago in the NFL thread when we were discussing him. The dude has a 6 second wind up and he still throws it short. The sq feet that a college QB has to throw into is basically a garage door, the spot in NFL is a tire, like a tire on a mini cooper.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:
Yeah but Tebow, unless I’m mistaken, was the guy who popularized the kneeling and giving thanks after each touch down. And that’s when Tebowing took off.
[/quote]
To be fair I’d say the media popularized it.
Anyway not to keep harping on old news. It just seems crazy to me that a team wouldn’t want a person of his caliber on their roster. Instead teams would rather have guys that punch their fiances, get popped for DWI for smoking weed, or spending time in prison for dog fighting.
I just don’t get it. [/quote]
He just cant make the throws. PERIOD
I am not digging up the threads but I said this shit years ago in the NFL thread when we were discussing him. The dude has a 6 second wind up and he still throws it short. The sq feet that a college QB has to throw into is basically a garage door, the spot in NFL is a tire, like a tire on a mini cooper. [/quote]
Ya, I understand he has some mechanical issues. All I’m really saying is that there are a lot of very good players that haven’t or never will win anything yet they are given shot after shot. I’m more surprised than anything someone didn’t try and utilize a guy like Tebow who is an obviously gifted athlete even if he isn’t the best qb.
I’m not some Tebow mania fan, I really don’t care if he plays or not, it just surprised me no one gave him a real shot is all.
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
Also, saw the Browns picked Hoyer to start game 1 of the season. I think it’s a smart move by them. See what Hoyer can do for you and if or when he fails, put in Manziel. I can see Manziel getting the starter job maybe by week 7 against the Jags unless something bad happens to Hoyer. Their first three games are against the Steelers, Saints, and Ravens. Three teams that might make Manziel look bad.[/quote]
Yeah, they will be calling for Hoyers head after three, just in time to turn around and play the Steelers again so that you get a direct comparison. Also, if he has made it that long, and with a middle light schedule he might, look at week 11. That new Texans D may be looking to send him some love from his old state.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]MinotaurXXX wrote:
Yeah but Tebow, unless I’m mistaken, was the guy who popularized the kneeling and giving thanks after each touch down. And that’s when Tebowing took off.
[/quote]
To be fair I’d say the media popularized it.
Anyway not to keep harping on old news. It just seems crazy to me that a team wouldn’t want a person of his caliber on their roster. Instead teams would rather have guys that punch their fiances, get popped for DWI for smoking weed, or spending time in prison for dog fighting.
I just don’t get it. [/quote]
He just cant make the throws. PERIOD
I am not digging up the threads but I said this shit years ago in the NFL thread when we were discussing him. The dude has a 6 second wind up and he still throws it short. The sq feet that a college QB has to throw into is basically a garage door, the spot in NFL is a tire, like a tire on a mini cooper. [/quote]
Ya, I understand he has some mechanical issues. All I’m really saying is that there are a lot of very good players that haven’t or never will win anything yet they are given shot after shot. I’m more surprised than anything someone didn’t try and utilize a guy like Tebow who is an obviously gifted athlete even if he isn’t the best qb.
I’m not some Tebow mania fan, I really don’t care if he plays or not, it just surprised me no one gave him a real shot is all. [/quote]
I understand what you are saying. But I believe most GM’s have enough of a sample size of games to know what Tebow brings.
Dude should have put his ego aside and learned another position.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Dude should have put his ego aside and learned another position. [/quote]
I definitely agree with you here.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Dude should have put his ego aside and learned another position. [/quote]
I definitely agree with you here. [/quote]
But look he is going to the way of Jesse Palmer, great college QB just cant cut it in the pro’s and now is going to be an announcer. Which is where he belongs. He is a good kid and he will have a great career announcing.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
Also, saw the Browns picked Hoyer to start game 1 of the season. I think it’s a smart move by them. See what Hoyer can do for you and if or when he fails, put in Manziel. I can see Manziel getting the starter job maybe by week 7 against the Jags unless something bad happens to Hoyer. Their first three games are against the Steelers, Saints, and Ravens. Three teams that might make Manziel look bad.[/quote]
Yeah, they will be calling for Hoyers head after three, just in time to turn around and play the Steelers again so that you get a direct comparison. Also, if he has made it that long, and with a middle light schedule he might, look at week 11. That new Texans D may be looking to send him some love from his old state. [/quote]
Ya, I think the Browns front office is basically sacrificing Hoyer to the football gods. I’ll be surprised if they win any of the first 3, which will temper the fan base expectations for the remainder of the year under Manziel.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
Also, saw the Browns picked Hoyer to start game 1 of the season. I think it’s a smart move by them. See what Hoyer can do for you and if or when he fails, put in Manziel. I can see Manziel getting the starter job maybe by week 7 against the Jags unless something bad happens to Hoyer. Their first three games are against the Steelers, Saints, and Ravens. Three teams that might make Manziel look bad.[/quote]
Yeah, they will be calling for Hoyers head after three, just in time to turn around and play the Steelers again so that you get a direct comparison. Also, if he has made it that long, and with a middle light schedule he might, look at week 11. That new Texans D may be looking to send him some love from his old state. [/quote]
Ya, I think the Browns front office is basically sacrificing Hoyer to the football gods. I’ll be surprised if they win any of the first 3, which will temper the fan base expectations for the remainder of the year under Manziel. [/quote]
Winning 1 of their first 5 games would be a pretty decent start, which ever one is QB. Winning 2 would be a success. But know one is going to pump the breaks for Hoyer and realize that.
Conspiracy theory: You think the NFL knew what it was doing when it made that schedule?? Ravens, Saints, Steelers twice, Tennessee, to make sure you get Hoyer out of there, then it lightens up to Jacksonville and Oakland just in time for Johnny Football?