And in news that only shocks people because of how long it has taken to finally happen, LaRon Landry has been suspended for PED use.
I’m sure it was just some fertility treatment or amphetamines, right?
[quote]red04 wrote:
And in news that only shocks people because of how long it has taken to finally happen, LaRon Landry has been suspended for PED use.
I’m sure it was just some fertility treatment or amphetamines, right?[/quote]
holy fuck that guy is huge. This is the first time he’s been suspended?
lol, pats are garbage.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
lol, pats are garbage. [/quote]
They will fix it. At least you do not need a QB.
You just need a receiver taller than 5’5"
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
lol, pats are garbage. [/quote]
They will fix it. At least you do not need a QB.
You just need a receiver taller than 5’5"[/quote]
I’m not above hanging a lot of the offensive problems on Brady right now. He looks like shit on all accounts. O line is shit, yes, but he looks bad even when there is no pressure…
If the D can’t get their head out of their ass, like last night, this team will be lucky to be 8-8…
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
lol, pats are garbage. [/quote]
They will fix it. At least you do not need a QB.
You just need a receiver taller than 5’5"[/quote]
I’m not above hanging a lot of the offensive problems on Brady right now. He looks like shit on all accounts. O line is shit, yes, but he looks bad even when there is no pressure…
If the D can’t get their head out of their ass, like last night, this team will be lucky to be 8-8…
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Brady’s best throw of the season was the fist INT last night…
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
[quote]red04 wrote:
And in news that only shocks people because of how long it has taken to finally happen, LaRon Landry has been suspended for PED use.
I’m sure it was just some fertility treatment or amphetamines, right?[/quote]
holy fuck that guy is huge. This is the first time he’s been suspended?[/quote]
Come on guys, its probably just from the supps he sells.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
lol, pats are garbage. [/quote]
They will fix it. At least you do not need a QB.
You just need a receiver taller than 5’5"[/quote]
Right now the Pats O-line is ranked 32nd on ProFootballFocus. Bad receivers are not an excuse, Brady has just been bad, defense looks porous, o-line terrible.
Bills are benching Manuel for Orton starting this week. Shame they didn’t pick up Vick when they had the chance, but Orton will still be a short term improvement. Should call up Jeff Tuel from the practice squad to be Orton’s understudy while they’re at it. And maybe call Tebow’s agent just in case.
[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
Bills are benching Manuel for Orton starting this week. Shame they didn’t pick up Vick when they had the chance, but Orton will still be a short term improvement. Should call up Jeff Tuel from the practice squad to be Orton’s understudy while they’re at it. And maybe call Tebow’s agent just in case.[/quote]
I really thought Manual would get more time and would at least end up middle of the road. This could set the franchise back a few years if he is a bust.
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
defense looks porous, o[/quote]
lol… Last night maybe, but the 7 quarters without a touchdown prior I would argue differently.
D had a SHIT night last night for sure, but it is far from the weak spot on this team. In fact D and special teams are fine… It’s the offense, which is Brady.
People can blame the line all day if they want, and there is much merit to that argument, but Brady looks like shit and has since the last game or two last year.
[quote]Broncoandy wrote:
Bills are benching Manuel for Orton starting this week. Shame they didn’t pick up Vick when they had the chance, but Orton will still be a short term improvement. Should call up Jeff Tuel from the practice squad to be Orton’s understudy while they’re at it. And maybe call Tebow’s agent just in case.[/quote]
Tebow>Orton Been proven on the field.
In fact, I’m done with Brady. He has had a piss poor attitude last year and this, because Welker. Now I think he regrets all his contract negotiations and trying to play “team player” his entire career. Boo Fucking Hoo.
No, the team hasn’t given you much to work with since Moss, except you know, Gronk, and the prior to being caught a murdered, Hernandez. Solid running back core and an OLine to drool over for years until this.
I’m so tired of him acting like a spoiled baby because Dobson ran to the right, which was wide fucking open, instead of stopping at the one. And I’m tired of his shit throws automatically getting pinned on the receiver when some of those are on him. I’m tired of the press kissing his ass, fans worshipping his cock, and the radio all over his nuts like Tommy Three Rings could never do anything wrong.
All 53 guys on that squad last night has bad games except one or two plays by Gronk, Edleman, Lafell and some people on D who are quietly becoming superstars.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
defense looks porous, o[/quote]
lol… Last night maybe, but the 7 quarters without a touchdown prior I would argue differently.
D had a SHIT night last night for sure, but it is far from the weak spot on this team. In fact D and special teams are fine… It’s the offense, which is Brady.
People can blame the line all day if they want, and there is much merit to that argument, but Brady looks like shit and has since the last game or two last year. [/quote]
Can we at least put to bed any Brady > Manning talk now?? Manning propped up a 2-14 team for two or three years and had them winning 12 plus games and in the playoffs every year. Brady can barely keep a team with a solid D at .500
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
defense looks porous, o[/quote]
lol… Last night maybe, but the 7 quarters without a touchdown prior I would argue differently.
D had a SHIT night last night for sure, but it is far from the weak spot on this team. In fact D and special teams are fine… It’s the offense, which is Brady.
People can blame the line all day if they want, and there is much merit to that argument, but Brady looks like shit and has since the last game or two last year. [/quote]
Can we at least put to bed any Brady > Manning talk now?? Manning propped up a 2-14 team for two or three years and had them winning 12 plus games and in the playoffs every year. Brady can barely keep a team with a solid D at .500[/quote]
No. Manning didn’t do that at 37, and neither can Brady, as of right now. The Broncos are a damn good team.
Brady is better than Manning. Not by much, a hair maybe, but he is. Neither are the best to ever play, but both are in the conversation.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
defense looks porous, o[/quote]
lol… Last night maybe, but the 7 quarters without a touchdown prior I would argue differently.
D had a SHIT night last night for sure, but it is far from the weak spot on this team. In fact D and special teams are fine… It’s the offense, which is Brady.
People can blame the line all day if they want, and there is much merit to that argument, but Brady looks like shit and has since the last game or two last year. [/quote]
Can we at least put to bed any Brady > Manning talk now?? Manning propped up a 2-14 team for two or three years and had them winning 12 plus games and in the playoffs every year. Brady can barely keep a team with a solid D at .500[/quote]
No. Manning didn’t do that at 37, and neither can Brady, as of right now. The Broncos are a damn good team.
Brady is better than Manning. Not by much, a hair maybe, but he is. Neither are the best to ever play, but both are in the conversation. [/quote]
Brady cant win without a spectacular team around him. He has had one of the top 10 defenses in football his first few years and still couldn’t outright win games. He had to have Vinatari to do it. Brady cant make bad teams good. Manning can. I am not saying the Broncos are a bad team. The Colts were a bad team for several years. You give Manning Brady’s teams and you have the most dominant team of all time, you give Brady Manning’s Colts and you don’t know Tom Brady’s name.
EDIT: And Manning is the best QB of all time. Belichik is the greatest coach in this era and Brady got lucky enough to be the one to play for him. If you put Brady, Manning, Montana, and Marino on this years Jaguars, who do you think would win the most games?? That is who you should consider the best QB of all time and I think that would easily be Manning.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
If you put Brady, Manning, Montana, and Marino on this years Jaguars, who do you think would win the most games?? That is who you should consider the best QB of all time and I think that would easily be Manning.
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Johnny Unitas.
I’d also add Favre to your list and probably pick him.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
If you put Brady, Manning, Montana, and Marino on this years Jaguars, who do you think would win the most games?? That is who you should consider the best QB of all time and I think that would easily be Manning.
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Johnny Unitas.
I’d also add Favre to your list and probably pick him.[/quote]
I thought about Favre, but figured I would get labeled a homer with that one.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
If you put Brady, Manning, Montana, and Marino on this years Jaguars, who do you think would win the most games?? That is who you should consider the best QB of all time and I think that would easily be Manning.
[/quote]
Johnny Unitas.
I’d also add Favre to your list and probably pick him.[/quote]
I thought about Favre, but figured I would get labeled a homer with that one.
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Lol, I could see that. Most people love him or hate him. I think he’s one of the best if not the best ever.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
defense looks porous, o[/quote]
lol… Last night maybe, but the 7 quarters without a touchdown prior I would argue differently.
D had a SHIT night last night for sure, but it is far from the weak spot on this team. In fact D and special teams are fine… It’s the offense, which is Brady.
People can blame the line all day if they want, and there is much merit to that argument, but Brady looks like shit and has since the last game or two last year. [/quote]
Can we at least put to bed any Brady > Manning talk now?? Manning propped up a 2-14 team for two or three years and had them winning 12 plus games and in the playoffs every year. Brady can barely keep a team with a solid D at .500[/quote]
No. Manning didn’t do that at 37, and neither can Brady, as of right now. The Broncos are a damn good team.
Brady is better than Manning. Not by much, a hair maybe, but he is. Neither are the best to ever play, but both are in the conversation. [/quote]
Brady cant win without a spectacular team around him. He has had one of the top 10 defenses in football his first few years and still couldn’t outright win games. He had to have Vinatari to do it. Brady cant make bad teams good. Manning can. I am not saying the Broncos are a bad team. The Colts were a bad team for several years. You give Manning Brady’s teams and you have the most dominant team of all time, you give Brady Manning’s Colts and you don’t know Tom Brady’s name.
EDIT: And Manning is the best QB of all time. Belichik is the greatest coach in this era and Brady got lucky enough to be the one to play for him. If you put Brady, Manning, Montana, and Marino on this years Jaguars, who do you think would win the most games?? That is who you should consider the best QB of all time and I think that would easily be Manning.
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Manning ring: 1
Brady’s rings: 3
Brady is better.