2014 NFL #1 Draft Pick

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

From the standpoint of line play, I can see the attraction in gravitating toward playing on the defensive side of the ball.

When you’re an OL, you protect, clear holes, protect some more, push and pull to keep a guy in front of you who often has a downhill/running headstart. Your only real fun is the rare play when you get to pull and potentially clean someone elses clock, but even that depends on at least three other guys getting their big asses off the line and out of your way. There’s a snap count to remember, blitz pick-ups, inside to outside responsibility depending on play, etc. It’s truly thankless and completely sans positive recognition, only negative. It’s brainy, white-knighty, and devoid of individual accolades until pro-bowl votes come out.

However, on the defense, you get to go huntin.

And if that killer instinct in your personality, you have a good fuckin time on the other side of the ball.

I think in order to combat this uprising of incredibly athletic and nasty DL’s, the OL positions have to respond somehow. To make it more “fun.”

It’s going to be interesting to see this thing unfold, and it’s pretty fun to see the chess match. Clowney was up against a senior Tackle from Michigan (Taylor Lewann) who is/was ranked as a top 15 OL coming out for the draft. While Lewann did prove serviceable for his responsibility, Clowney still got his. How do you find and develop a “Clowney-stopper?”

It’s yet to be seen. [/quote]

Playing OL can be fun as hell. You get to beat the hell out of the guy you’re assigned to block every play, all day. You don’t have to worry about finding a ball carrier, or whether it’s run or pass (since you already know), you just have to beat the fuck out of the dude across from you. It’s all in how you approach it.

There are some nasty motherfuckers playing O-line.[/quote]

They’re the smartest mofo’s on the team too.

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Show of hands who played OL in HS or beyond.

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Same here. Went both ways [/quote]

I lined up against him two years ago at a recruiting camp (3 times actually), back when he was the number 1 high school recruit in the country and boy was it hell

I’m really only posting this too see if I’m a level five yet.
<------- Am I!!!

I’m excited to see this hit when someday it’s Trent Richardson, or Marshawn Lynch in Vincent Smith’s place, I mean shiittt…
The dude 5’6" 175, soaking wet, no wonder he flew halfway back to Michigan.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
I played Defensive End

Most bad ass position in football[/quote]

3-4, 4-3 or 5-2 defense?[/quote]

43

Everything else is stupid.

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
I played Defensive End

Most bad ass position in football[/quote]

3-4, 4-3 or 5-2 defense?[/quote]

43

Everything else is stupid.[/quote]

False.

Die.

[quote]iVoodoo wrote:

I’m excited to see this hit when someday it’s Trent Richardson

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2016 Draft=Johnny Manziel

[quote]Legionary wrote:
2016 Draft=Johnny Manziel[/quote]

Yep and future NFL HOFer too.

The only reason he is that athletic at that size is because of his offeason basketball work. he is just not good enough for the nba so he is persuing football.

but seriously that dude is scary!

[quote]SSC wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
I played Defensive End

Most bad ass position in football[/quote]

3-4, 4-3 or 5-2 defense?[/quote]

43

Everything else is stupid.[/quote]

False.

Die.[/quote]

Make me

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]Legionary wrote:
2016 Draft=Johnny Manziel[/quote]

Yep and future NFL HOFer too.[/quote]

Played against him in HS. He was amazing then, but even better his 1st season in college.

[quote]Legionary wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]Legionary wrote:
2016 Draft=Johnny Manziel[/quote]

Yep and future NFL HOFer too.[/quote]

Played against him in HS. He was amazing then, but even better his 1st season in college. [/quote]

What did HS football players think about him then? Did anyone ever think he’d be as good as he in now (and potential to get even better)?

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]Legionary wrote:

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]Legionary wrote:
2016 Draft=Johnny Manziel[/quote]

Yep and future NFL HOFer too.[/quote]

Played against him in HS. He was amazing then, but even better his 1st season in college. [/quote]

What did HS football players think about him then? Did anyone ever think he’d be as good as he in now (and potential to get even better)?[/quote]

We thought he was a big time player but I don’t think anyone thought he would be the caliber of player he was this year. He had obvious potential though. I lived about an hour from Kerrville (his hometown) so we naturally hung out with those kids on occasion. He was kind of a shit head toward his teammates from what I understand and actually was arrested for shoplifting in Wal-Mart (a cell phone charger if you can believe it.) A similar incident occured early this year after a fight and being found possessing a fake id. My friends at TAMU who know him say he has cleaned up his act as of late though. Hope its true.

He had 516 total yards tonight vs Oklahoma, a Cotton Bowl record.

I know nothing about college football…

The Jets are said to have a chance at the following players in the first round. While the Jets have a ton of needs, they have needed a pass rushing LB for years now. If they can scoop one of these players combined with a D line of Wilkerson and Coples, and and excellent DBs the Jets D can be very good. Jets pick 9th.

Any insight would be appreciated

Jarvis Jones
Barkevious Mingo
Bjoern Werner
Dion Jordan
Damontre Moore

I also heard the Jets may look at Tyler Wilson

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
I played Defensive End

Most bad ass position in football[/quote]

3-4, 4-3 or 5-2 defense?[/quote]

43

Everything else is stupid.[/quote]
Nah everything else is covering up your weaknesses. Very, very hard to get 4 stud DL for the 4-3

[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:

[quote]Legionary wrote:
2016 Draft=Johnny Manziel[/quote]

Yep and future NFL HOFer too.[/quote]

You can put me on record that this kid will not go in the 1st round.

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
I played Defensive End

Most bad ass position in football[/quote]

3-4, 4-3 or 5-2 defense?[/quote]

43

Everything else is stupid.[/quote]
Nah everything else is covering up your weaknesses. Very, very hard to get 4 stud DL for the 4-3[/quote]

2 state rings…

43 is is better…as you said why run 52 when it takes an LB out of the game? And if its hard to ffind4 solid DL guys why would 5 be easier?

43 and 35 are the only defenses that make any sense.

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
I know nothing about college football…

The Jets are said to have a chance at the following players in the first round. While the Jets have a ton of needs, they have needed a pass rushing LB for years now. If they can scoop one of these players combined with a D line of Wilkerson and Coples, and and excellent DBs the Jets D can be very good. Jets pick 9th.

Any insight would be appreciated

Jarvis Jones
Barkevious Mingo
Bjoern Werner
Dion Jordan
Damontre Moore

I also heard the Jets may look at Tyler Wilson
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Jarvis Jones is a freak. Sadly, while he is going as low as 12 on some boards right now, I don’t expect that to pan out in real life; pass rushing DE is a very important position in the modern NFL. Kids with his talent at that position are no longer dropping down the board because everyone is drafting QB/RB/LT in front of them(didn’t Aldon Smith go #6? I know I heard McShay say he has Jones rated higher right now pre-combine).