I think that is the worst rule in the NBA right now. I absolutely HATE when guys pump fake, the defender jumps, and then the shooter jumps INTO the defender and gets a foul call. I REALLY hope that they change that rule. If you go out of your normal shooting motion to draw contact on that, it shouldnt be a foul IMO.
If the defender jumps into you, then by all means it should be called but when the defender is jumping by you and you jump sideways to draw contact… no foul.
/RANT :)[/quote]
LOL, Reggie Miller made a career out of that shit. Wade and Durant are a couple of the worst present day offenders.
I agree with both you and Tommy for the most part, but Miami is DEFINITELY getting more calls [not necessarilly ft’s] for the series and James wasn’t fouled on that play. Carry on.[/quote]
I’ll disagree with you on the James shot but do you really think Miami got more calls in last nights game?
Man, you can’t call a game by subtracting one shot–Chalmers’ half court shot–and assuming the rest of the game would’ve gone as it had. Each play yields different plays in response, each shot has an impact on the psychology of the players (same and opposing teams), on their morale.
I agree with both you and Tommy for the most part, but Miami is DEFINITELY getting more calls [not necessarilly ft’s] for the series and James wasn’t fouled on that play. Carry on.[/quote]
I’ll disagree with you on the James shot but do you really think Miami got more calls in last nights game? [/quote]
Not last night, just so far throughout the series. Dirk had that and 1 on Mike Miller where Miller was a good 1/2 a foot from hitting him amongst other favorable Dallas calls. Miami definitely had their share, but last night Dallas won the ref war.
I think that is the worst rule in the NBA right now. I absolutely HATE when guys pump fake, the defender jumps, and then the shooter jumps INTO the defender and gets a foul call. I REALLY hope that they change that rule. If you go out of your normal shooting motion to draw contact on that, it shouldnt be a foul IMO.
If the defender jumps into you, then by all means it should be called but when the defender is jumping by you and you jump sideways to draw contact… no foul.
/RANT :)[/quote]
LOL, Reggie Miller made a career out of that shit. Wade and Durant are a couple of the worst present day offenders.[/quote]
I agree with both you and Tommy for the most part, but Miami is DEFINITELY getting more calls [not necessarilly ft’s] for the series and James wasn’t fouled on that play. Carry on.[/quote]
I’ll disagree with you on the James shot but do you really think Miami got more calls in last nights game? [/quote]
Not last night, just so far throughout the series. Dirk had that and 1 on Mike Miller where Miller was a good 1/2 a foot from hitting him amongst other favorable Dallas calls. Miami definitely had their share, but last night Dallas won the ref war.[/quote]
DAL got way better calls last night.
Refs always favor superstars and home teams. Holds true about 90% of the time. Also why MIA got more calls in game 1 and 2.
Edit: There is one ref who is known for giving away teams advantages - I forget who. Might be Javie.
And, c’mon y’all. I know basketball better than to say that if Chalmers 3 gets cut the Mav’s win. It was just something else I was using to illustrate my point.
I’m gonna take a new viewpoint here: We keep talking about how Dallas is “missing shots they normally take” - but we are comparing them to POSTSEASON Dallas who was hitting way more shots than they normally do. Maybe they are reverting back to the 82-game sample size, REGULAR SEASON Dallas who was not the best offensive team in the NBA this year. Combine that with the fact that MIA is a fast defense who rotates much quicker than OKC, POR or LAL and you might have something of an explanation for these missed shots.
I still think they are better shooters than they’ve shown thus far in the finals - they have certainly missed open shots - but I think regression to the mean is at least a small part of the problem.
^^ Jason Kidd shot 34% from three this year (regular season). Jason Terry shot 36.2%. Barea shot 34.9%. These are NOT elite numbers… in fact, they are far from it.
I agree with both you and Tommy for the most part, but Miami is DEFINITELY getting more calls [not necessarilly ft’s] for the series and James wasn’t fouled on that play. Carry on.[/quote]
I’ll disagree with you on the James shot but do you really think Miami got more calls in last nights game? [/quote]
Not last night, just so far throughout the series. Dirk had that and 1 on Mike Miller where Miller was a good 1/2 a foot from hitting him amongst other favorable Dallas calls. Miami definitely had their share, but last night Dallas won the ref war.[/quote]
Yup, I agree with you on that. There’s no disputing Miami got the calls in the 1st 2 games.
[quote]scj119 wrote:
I’m gonna take a new viewpoint here: We keep talking about how Dallas is “missing shots they normally take” - but we are comparing them to POSTSEASON Dallas who was hitting way more shots than they normally do. Maybe they are reverting back to the 82-game sample size, REGULAR SEASON Dallas who was not the best offensive team in the NBA this year. Combine that with the fact that MIA is a fast defense who rotates much quicker than OKC, POR or LAL and you might have something of an explanation for these missed shots.
I still think they are better shooters than they’ve shown thus far in the finals - they have certainly missed open shots - but I think regression to the mean is at least a small part of the problem.[/quote]
Exactly. I would not compare Miami’s defense to Portland, OKC and LA. Dallas had a great bench during the regular season, but I think LA made them out of this world.
My friend used the analogy of a QB going against a great passrush. They have 3 seconds to get rid of the ball or get sacked. Dallas’ shooters have been taken out of rhythm and maybe rushing their shots.
We all see how Terry is being taken out by Bron, Barrera is not weaving around like he used to, and Peja can’t get off a shot and is a liability on D. Butler would make a difference in this series.
[quote]scj119 wrote:
I’m gonna take a new viewpoint here: We keep talking about how Dallas is “missing shots they normally take” - but we are comparing them to POSTSEASON Dallas who was hitting way more shots than they normally do. Maybe they are reverting back to the 82-game sample size, REGULAR SEASON Dallas who was not the best offensive team in the NBA this year. Combine that with the fact that MIA is a fast defense who rotates much quicker than OKC, POR or LAL and you might have something of an explanation for these missed shots.
I still think they are better shooters than they’ve shown thus far in the finals - they have certainly missed open shots - but I think regression to the mean is at least a small part of the problem.[/quote]
Exactly. I would not compare Miami’s defense to Portland, OKC and LA. Dallas had a great bench during the regular season, but I think LA made them out of this world.
My friend used the analogy of a QB going against a great passrush. They have 3 seconds to get rid of the ball or get sacked. Dallas’ shooters have been taken out of rhythm and maybe rushing their shots.
We all see how Terry is being taken out by Bron, Barrera is not weaving around like he used to, and Peja can’t get off a shot and is a liability on D. Butler would make a difference in this series.
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Fellas, anyone with half a brain has already thought of all this. Dallas is getting just as many open looks as they did against those other teams, they’re just not hitting 'em. Nothing Miami is doing is any different or better than anyother team they’ve faced these playoffs. Dallas is just missing. There were several WIDE OPEN 3’s without a defender anywhere near close enough to disrupt the shooters rhythm and Dallas was still blowing 'em. Barea was even blowing wide open layups, and Marion threw the ball over the stanction on a wide open dunk attempt. Not sure what games y’all have been watching, but Miami isn’t winning this series. Dallas is losing it.
[quote]scj119 wrote:
I’m gonna take a new viewpoint here: We keep talking about how Dallas is “missing shots they normally take” - but we are comparing them to POSTSEASON Dallas who was hitting way more shots than they normally do. Maybe they are reverting back to the 82-game sample size, REGULAR SEASON Dallas who was not the best offensive team in the NBA this year. Combine that with the fact that MIA is a fast defense who rotates much quicker than OKC, POR or LAL and you might have something of an explanation for these missed shots.
I still think they are better shooters than they’ve shown thus far in the finals - they have certainly missed open shots - but I think regression to the mean is at least a small part of the problem.[/quote]
Exactly. I would not compare Miami’s defense to Portland, OKC and LA. Dallas had a great bench during the regular season, but I think LA made them out of this world.
My friend used the analogy of a QB going against a great passrush. They have 3 seconds to get rid of the ball or get sacked. Dallas’ shooters have been taken out of rhythm and maybe rushing their shots.
We all see how Terry is being taken out by Bron, Barrera is not weaving around like he used to, and Peja can’t get off a shot and is a liability on D. Butler would make a difference in this series.
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Fellas, anyone with half a brain has already thought of all this. Dallas is getting just as many open looks as they did against those other teams, they’re just not hitting 'em. Nothing Miami is doing is any different or better than anyother team they’ve faced these playoffs. Dallas is just missing. There were several WIDE OPEN 3’s without a defender anywhere near close enough to disrupt the shooters rhythm and Dallas was still blowing 'em. Barea was even blowing wide open layups, and Marion threw the ball over the stanction on a wide open dunk attempt. Not sure what games y’all have been watching, but Miami isn’t winning this series. Dallas is losing it.[/quote]
Nah, after 3 games I’d say Miami’s defense is doing something to the Dallas shooters. They hear footsteps. One game of blowing shots, yeah. But not after 3 games. But we’ll see after this series is over.
^^^I see what you’re trying to say, but it makes zero sense. Dallas is missing WIDE OPEN SHOTS. That has nothing to do with anyone but Dallas. Blowing open layups is 'causeof Miami’s D? Having 3 full seconds to shoot a wide open shot at several different points in the game and still missing is 'cause of Miami’s D? Throwing the ball over the basket on a WIDE OPEN dunk attempt is 'cause of Miami’s D? Use your head, man. Maybe the pressure of the situation is getting to them, but Miami’s D isn’t.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
^^^I see what you’re trying to say, but it makes zero sense. Dallas is missing WIDE OPEN SHOTS. That has nothing to do with anyone but Dallas. Blowing open layups is 'causeof Miami’s D? Having 3 full seconds to shoot a wide open shot at several different points in the game and still missing is 'cause of Miami’s D? Throwing the ball over the basket on a WIDE OPEN dunk attempt is 'cause of Miami’s D? Use your head, man. Maybe the pressure of the situation is getting to them, but Miami’s D isn’t.[/quote]
Cmon. You never had your shot rejected or altered enough times that you can’t shoot in rhythm. Even when you have open shots.
By the way, I am using my head!
If the pressure is getting to Dallas, it will be over Thursday.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
^^^I see what you’re trying to say, but it makes zero sense. Dallas is missing WIDE OPEN SHOTS. That has nothing to do with anyone but Dallas. Blowing open layups is 'causeof Miami’s D? Having 3 full seconds to shoot a wide open shot at several different points in the game and still missing is 'cause of Miami’s D? Throwing the ball over the basket on a WIDE OPEN dunk attempt is 'cause of Miami’s D? Use your head, man. Maybe the pressure of the situation is getting to them, but Miami’s D isn’t.[/quote]
Cmon. You never had your shot rejected or altered enough times that you can’t shoot in rhythm. Even when you have open shots.
By the way, I am using my head!
If the pressure is getting to Dallas, it will be over Thursday.[/quote]
Personally, no. But, Dallas isn’t getting their shots blocked that frequently either. I do agree that if Dallas doesn’t come to play [what’s up with only playing hard when you’re down??? IT’S THE FINALS!], they’re dunzo. Do we know if Haywood’s playing tomorrow night? Just ahving an extra big body down there will help.
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
^^^I see what you’re trying to say, but it makes zero sense. Dallas is missing WIDE OPEN SHOTS. That has nothing to do with anyone but Dallas. Blowing open layups is 'causeof Miami’s D? Having 3 full seconds to shoot a wide open shot at several different points in the game and still missing is 'cause of Miami’s D? Throwing the ball over the basket on a WIDE OPEN dunk attempt is 'cause of Miami’s D? Use your head, man. Maybe the pressure of the situation is getting to them, but Miami’s D isn’t.[/quote]
Cmon. You never had your shot rejected or altered enough times that you can’t shoot in rhythm. Even when you have open shots.
By the way, I am using my head!
If the pressure is getting to Dallas, it will be over Thursday.[/quote]
Personally, no. But, Dallas isn’t getting their shots blocked that frequently either. I do agree that if Dallas doesn’t come to play [what’s up with only playing hard when you’re down??? IT’S THE FINALS!], they’re dunzo. Do we know if Haywood’s playing tomorrow night? Just ahving an extra big body down there will help.[/quote]
I believe Haywood is a game time decision. Too bad your team doesn’t have Butler.
If Haywood is out again I think we are toast. Mahinmi fucking sucks, dude almost fouled out in like 5 minutes so Chandler wasn’t able to play as aggressive as he usually does.
And the problem is 50% missing open shots, 50% completely terrible turnovers. I mean even Jason Kidd is throwing the ball right to Miami players. And Jason Terry missed 2 or 3 WIDE open 3’s, literally no one even close. Barea missed 2 that I can remember, and a lot of easy layups. And fucking Peja is playing scared, he looks completely shook out there.