[quote]Professor X wrote:
It shocked me too…but it had more room than the camarro. That was another reason I got it.
With the seat laid and pushed back, I lay out completely with legs stretched out in it. I couldn’t do that in a jeep. If I were taller than 5’11" I am sure I wouldn’t be able to though.
QWhat I do hate are the leather seat backs…because they curve in like race seats. This does NOT feel good for someone with a wide back.
I had to buy a cover for the seat that flattened the back out just so I can relax on it.
Without it, my lats won’t let me lay back.[/quote]
That’s why I was surprised you bought a Mustang. I figured you wouldn’t fit in the seats. Hell, I thought they were a bit too tight for comfort, and used a more normal seat in mine. [/quote]
They changed a lot around 2008. The car itself requires me to turn sideways to get out of…but frankly, the fact I can get in it at all means there is enough room.
My back is too wide for the seat, but the seat cover fixes that mostly.
That was a hassle though before I figured out how to fix it.
[quote]Marzouk wrote:
I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again.
There is a replacement for displacement. It’s called brains and technology.
400bhp from a 5.0 V8 is inefficient as hell.
2012 Nissan GTR makes any american muscle car look like an 8 yr old boy in a tutu. [/quote]
Congratulations! Being able to afford a $90,000 car is a great achievement. The Japs did a nice job on it.
Doesn’t it have 530hp/448ft-lb, compared to the Mustang Cobra’s 550hp/510ft-lb? The Mustang is only a $50,000 car. Not to mention the high end Corvette models. How many Dodge Vipers 800-1000 hp? Or custom hot rods folks have built over the years. The GT-R is a damn fin rig, but I don’t think you know shit about American Muscle cars.
Why can’t you drive stick? Seriously, for a $90k I should have the option for a manual transmission.
Go get some track results and come back with your 1/8 or 1/4 mile times and trap speeds.
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I have been saying this to people for years bud. Go to the track with YOU behind the wheel or in my case handlebars and see what your wheels can do, not some pro with no reaction times to deal with. It’s blast and it’s humbling. I ran consistant mid to high elevens on a street tire where as the magazine rider’s best passtime was 10.70, I was pretty bummed that I was that much slower lol.
X I just want to know how you fit into a Mustang? My sister was kind enough to let me borrow her '10 convertable while my honda needed new brakes, and I must say it was not a very comfortable drive, I couldn’t get the seat correct and it felt like I was in an iron maiden or some such device. I was very happy to get back into my civic, it might be a smaller car but the Japanese have figured out some sort of way to make my little car seem more roomy than a bigger Mustang.
Not to throw my hat into the V8 vs 4cyl ring here, but to the OP if you want a fun car to drive you will be disappointed with the Mustang, unless you like the feel of loose steering, soft brakes and no road feel. I’ve driven each of the last few generations and have been let down. If I was ever to get a Mustang it would be an 88 Notchback, other than that no thanks. I do love the lines and the way they look, but my 09 2500HD Crew Cab with a Duramax is more fun to drive.
If you want an exciting driving experience take an STI for a spin, affordable fast and fun to drive right off the lot. If you need a V8 do yourself a favor and get a Vette as mentioned before. You can pic up a nice used one and step into one of the most highly engineered American cars you can buy.
[quote]IPB wrote:
unless you like the feel of loose steering, soft brakes and no road feel. I’ve driven each of the last few generations and have been let down. [/quote]
No offense, but bullshit. Also, no one cares if you sat in a Mustang earlier than 08 because that is the issue we are discussing.
I don’t have “loose steering”. the breaks aren’t “soft”, and I feel the road just fine…and that’s coming from someone who rides a Honda CBR1000 regularly.
[quote]kevinm1 wrote:
X I just want to know how you fit into a Mustang? My sister was kind enough to let me borrow her '10 convertable while my honda needed new brakes, and I must say it was not a very comfortable drive, I couldn’t get the seat correct and it felt like I was in an iron maiden or some such device. I was very happy to get back into my civic, it might be a smaller car but the Japanese have figured out some sort of way to make my little car seem more roomy than a bigger Mustang.[/quote]
It sounds like you didn’t adjust the seat well. You have to lower it down pretty much all the way and lay it back. If you are taller than me, that is one thing, but if I can fit in the care width wise, then most of you should be able to.
I have to sit facing out the car and then turn into it though…but that’s coming from someone who has trouble getting in and out of MOST cars.
You can’t park close to someone else and get in and out of it comfortably.
[quote]IPB wrote:
unless you like the feel of loose steering, soft brakes and no road feel. I’ve driven each of the last few generations and have been let down. [/quote]
No offense, but bullshit. Also, no one cares if you sat in a Mustang earlier than 08 because that is the issue we are discussing.
I don’t have “loose steering”. the breaks aren’t “soft”, and I feel the road just fine…and that’s coming from someone who rides a Honda CBR1000 regularly.[/quote]
When did I mention sitting in a previous gen mustang? I said I’ve driven several of them, I’m not trying to jump into the conversation regarding the seats and how they fit, because those are not high quality in my opinion either. I have always loved mustangs, but never been happy with their handling or cheap interiors. The OP said he wanted something fun to drive, the mustang, again in my opinion, is not fun. It feels disconnected, like driving a slab down the road.
[quote]IPB wrote:
unless you like the feel of loose steering, soft brakes and no road feel. I’ve driven each of the last few generations and have been let down. [/quote]
No offense, but bullshit. Also, no one cares if you sat in a Mustang earlier than 08 because that is the issue we are discussing.
I don’t have “loose steering”. the breaks aren’t “soft”, and I feel the road just fine…and that’s coming from someone who rides a Honda CBR1000 regularly.[/quote]
When did I mention sitting in a previous gen mustang? I said I’ve driven several of them, I’m not trying to jump into the conversation regarding the seats and how they fit, because those are not high quality in my opinion either. I have always loved mustangs, but never been happy with their handling or cheap interiors. The OP said he wanted something fun to drive, the mustang, again in my opinion, is not fun. It feels disconnected, like driving a slab down the road.
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We are talking about the 2011 Mustang. It is not the same machine as those made before 05. None of those traits you listed are anything like what I experienced in the 2011 Mustang.
[quote]IPB wrote:
I have always loved mustangs, but never been happy with their handling or cheap interiors. The OP said he wanted something fun to drive, the mustang, again in my opinion, is not fun. It feels disconnected, like driving a slab down the road.
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The 2011 Mustang is by far the best handling (affordable) production US muscle car yet (I haven’t seen Mustng v Corvette in a ‘handling’ test, but that’s a different class of auto).
The Mustang is a global contender in handling in its class. I don’t think the others have matured as such.
[quote]IPB wrote:
unless you like the feel of loose steering, soft brakes and no road feel. I’ve driven each of the last few generations and have been let down. [/quote]
No offense, but bullshit. Also, no one cares if you sat in a Mustang earlier than 08 because that is the issue we are discussing.
I don’t have “loose steering”. the breaks aren’t “soft”, and I feel the road just fine…and that’s coming from someone who rides a Honda CBR1000 regularly.[/quote]
When did I mention sitting in a previous gen mustang? I said I’ve driven several of them, I’m not trying to jump into the conversation regarding the seats and how they fit, because those are not high quality in my opinion either. I have always loved mustangs, but never been happy with their handling or cheap interiors. The OP said he wanted something fun to drive, the mustang, again in my opinion, is not fun. It feels disconnected, like driving a slab down the road.
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We are talking about the 2011 Mustang. It is not the same machine as those made before 05. None of those traits you listed are anything like what I experienced in the 2011 Mustang.[/quote]
Maybe the one I last drove was a 10, but it was far from fun to drive. Perhaps my view on what is fun is different, but I was not wowed by the car I drove. Maybe it was the car as I haven’t driven another one, who knows.
While I realize the new motors are great, especially the new V6, I wasn’t wowed. At the same time I do think that the Mustang is superior to the Camaro and the Callenger. As a buyer like I said before if I wanted a V8 or American sports car it would be a Vette. You can get a nice low mileage c5 or early c6 and have twice the car.
All I know is, it has the best interior design of any car in its class. That was one of its main selling points for me. My rims match the interior lighting. It looks cool as hell at night.
The camaro isn’t even close in that regard and their interior and sterring wheel sucked for real.
Handling? Please. It handles way better than both the Camaro and Challenger. This has been well documented.
I would like for my next car to be a vette…but let’s not kid ourselves by acting like Ford didn’t do a bad ass job this year.
The Camaro didn’t put the same heart into it and it shows especially on the inside of the car…and they had way more publicity.
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
Also, more generally, Ford is the only one getting anything right in the US car industry…[/quote]
I totally agree with this statement. In general I would take any for car over a comparable GM or Chrysler product. From overall design to engineering Ford is leading the American car movement. I just think there are better options for fun to drive cars.
If my father in law wasn’t a Chevy dealer I would have an F150 with the Eco-boost, but I want to stay in the will!
[quote]Professor X wrote:
All I know is, it has the best interior design of any car in its class. That was one of its main selling points for me. My rims match the interior lighting. It looks cool as hell at night.
The camaro isn’t even close in that regard and their interior and sterring wheel sucked for real.
Handling? Please. It handles way better than both the Camaro and Challenger. This has been well documented.
I would like for my next car to be a vette…but let’s not kid ourselves by acting like Ford didn’t do a bad ass job this year.
The Camaro didn’t put the same heart into it and it shows especially on the inside of the car…and they had way more publicity.[/quote]
I agree with the Camaro interior being garbage. For all the time they had to get it “right” I think they let a lot of people down. I haven’t driven the Challenger, but I’ve been inside of one and again not impressed.
I can say that I was in a new Fusion and Taurus SHO and I loved the interiors. Very clean and well laid out.
I agree with the Camaro interior being garbage. For all the time they had to get it “right” I think they let a lot of people down. I haven’t driven the Challenger, but I’ve been inside of one and again not impressed.
I can say that I was in a new Fusion and Taurus SHO and I loved the interiors. Very clean and well laid out.
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[quote]SteelyD wrote:
I will say only this. A V-6 in a Mustang, Camaro, or Challenger is an abomination. God kills a baby turtle for every V-6 “Muscle Car” that rolls off the line.[/quote]
Purist.
You’re right though, nothing beats the sound of a V-8.
Except maybe a large displacement V-8.
I’m hoping to get my car stuff out of the divorce by spring.
I have a Pontiac 400 sitting on an engine stand I’d like to put into something to drive around with.[/quote]