200mg to 140mg: What Are the Notable Differences?

ABSOLUTE BULLSHIT. This is fucking crazy man come on. If anything you need to take estrogen pills( not really) to help e2 come back. It comes back VERY slowly.

Sounds to me like you stopped cold turkey.

I’ve had somewhere between 150 to 200 guys tell me that they failed to do cold turkey and were successful by gradually weaning off. This was also my experience.

But I guess we just made it all up and are all full of shit and all have issues we’re lying about right?

Get a life.

@GSX250
Wait 3 months

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No thanks. Steady state is reached in 4-6 weeks. After that hormones arent changing much. So why would i wait another 6 weeks for nothing.

Wait 3 months

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Ok will do.

I have actually done that before and i didnt feel any different than at the 6 week mark.

Wait another 3 months

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“Steady state in 4 weeks.”

Oh boy

Around 4 weeks with frequent injections. And i’d give infrequent injections 6 weeks minimum.

@dextermorgan when are you going to come over to the dark side and join my FB group lol

What’s it called

TRT and Hormone Optimization… Same as the YouTube channel. If you do, send me a PM.

Oh, and make sure to answer the 3 questions otherwise the mods won’t let you in… It’s our way of trying to ensure serious members only join.

Steady state, takes 5-6 Half lives regardless of injection frequency, thus with test E/C it’s LITERALLY impossible to reach steady state in 4 wks

… also, argue coherently if you disagree with a certain ideology… trolling makes you come off as immature/childish and thus lessens you’re credibility

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Smaller depot= shorter half life. Larger depot= longer half life. Hence frequent injections reach steady state quicker.

if I’m not mistaken this is not the case, half life is determined by the ester, individualistic metabolic rate and injection site… not size of injection, give me some literature to prove that.

Half lives of differing doses of sub q test was found to be roughly the same if I recall correctly

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@unreal24278 and @GSX250 - this is from the “Testosterone Deficiency Guidelines” in the section labeled “Injectable Agents (Short Acting)”:

"The time-to-peak level was slightly faster with IM testosterone (33 hours) compared to SQ 100 mg (36 hours) and SQ 50 mg (45 hours). The half-life for IM testosterone was also shorter at 173 hours versus 240 hours for SQ testosterone. "

https://www.auanet.org/guidelines/testosterone-deficiency-guideline

I’m aware of this, however it isn’t relevant to the debate at stake

We are arguing whether the amount injected impacts the half life of the medication

I understand. In that quote, they administered 2 different sub q doses (50 and 100). Each sub q dose had different times to peak, but they didn’t have different half lives. Only IM and sub q had a difference in half life.

I took from that there was no difference in half life of the dose size, agreeing with you @unreal24278.

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There are many variables that alter the half life of depot testosterone. One variable is the size of the depot. Smaller injection volume= more surface area= faster release= shorter half life. Now how much it varies is unknown but steady state is definately reached faster with more frequent injections. It wouldnt be by much though. I used 4-6 weeks as an example.