[quote]Xeneize wrote:
tmoney1 wrote:
I agree with MV, I think the Pistons win game 6 in Motown, and it goes to Game 7…again, for the Celtics.
Also agree.[/quote]
Ditto. In my depression over the LA series I jumped on the Celtics bandwagon but I really do admire the Pistons they don’t quit. The Celtics are going to be tested.
[quote]Eielson wrote:
Malevolence wrote:
Jackson said it was a no call
Bryant said it was a no call
Fisher said it was a no call
Popovich said it was a no call
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Of course Jackson, Bryant, and Fischer said it was a no call. Popovich almost never bitches about the refs. He’s trying to get his team focused on the next game, but finally:
The NBA said it was a foul.
But your right LA won, end of story.
[quote]deputydawg wrote:
Eielson wrote:
Malevolence wrote:
Jackson said it was a no call
Bryant said it was a no call
Fisher said it was a no call
Popovich said it was a no call
.
Of course Jackson, Bryant, and Fischer said it was a no call. Popovich almost never bitches about the refs. He’s trying to get his team focused on the next game, but finally:
The NBA said it was a foul.
But your right LA won, end of story.
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There were a lot of missed calls even the one right before that with the ball hitting the rim. Best to get over it. Anyways I loved the pistons celtics game, that was very close game I almost thought the pistons were going to steal one. This series will probably go to game 7 with celtics winning again.
Shizen;
I'm already over it. Like I said in my earlier post it doesn't matter because LA played better and deserved to win. I've watched this Spurs team squander big leads all season long and most troubling right at the end of the season. I never expected them to get past NO.
[quote]deputydawg wrote:
Manu was playing terrible, but if that had been Manu he would have stood his ground and then launched his three jumping directly into Fisher then he would have flown back into the scoring table. Gone to the line and nailed all three free throws. [/quote]
LOL!
About SA-LAL: good point by Xene about the defending champs showing great class after such a tough loss.
About DET-BOS: Is the DET media ripping into Rip Hamilton like they should? I know getting your eye poked must suck, but you just CAN’T stop playing and hope your opponents do the same. And when you tweak your elbow later and you know you’re out of timeouts, you just CAN’T stop playing and leave your teammates in a 4-on-5 situation. You just can’t do that.
[quote]chillain wrote:
About SA-LAL: good point by Xene about the defending champs showing great class after such a tough loss.
About DET-BOS: Is the DET media ripping into Rip Hamilton like they should? I know getting your eye poked must suck, but you just CAN’T stop playing and hope your opponents do the same. And when you tweak your elbow later and you know you’re out of timeouts, you just CAN’T stop playing and leave your teammates in a 4-on-5 situation. You just can’t do that.
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In either case, what should he have done?
With his vision temporarily stunted, he really can’t do anything when he knows that defenders are all over him. With his elbow banged up as badly as it was (badly enough that his return for Game 6 is in serious jeopardy), he was down to one arm, so it would’ve been an effective four-on-five situation anyway.
When his eye was poked, he did not turn the ball over. That’s no small deal, and a great many players would have in that situation.
When his elbow got injured, Boston was intentionally fouling to prevent Detroit from getting off a three-ball anyway. Even if Boston had not been fouling and Rip had sprinted back down there, he wouldn’t have been able to contribute much. And Detroit definitely did not want him shooting the free throws with his shooting elbow hurt.
Those were unfortunate circumstances, but I don’t think Rip deserves much criticism for the way he handled them.
[quote]deputydawg wrote:
Eielson wrote:
Malevolence wrote:
Jackson said it was a no call
Bryant said it was a no call
Fisher said it was a no call
Popovich said it was a no call
.
Of course Jackson, Bryant, and Fischer said it was a no call. Popovich almost never bitches about the refs.
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Maybe I should have added in there that the refs thought it was a no call?
[quote]tGunslinger wrote:
In either case, what should he have done?
With his vision temporarily stunted, he really can’t do anything when he knows that defenders are all over him. With his elbow banged up as badly as it was (badly enough that his return for Game 6 is in serious jeopardy), he was down to one arm, so it would’ve been an effective four-on-five situation anyway.
When his eye was poked, he did not turn the ball over. That’s no small deal, and a great many players would have in that situation.
When his elbow got injured, Boston was intentionally fouling to prevent Detroit from getting off a three-ball anyway. Even if Boston had not been fouling and Rip had sprinted back down there, he wouldn’t have been able to contribute much. And Detroit definitely did not want him shooting the free throws with his shooting elbow hurt.
Those were unfortunate circumstances, but I don’t think Rip deserves much criticism for the way he handled them.[/quote]
After the eye poke, you need to cover up (which he did do) and keep yelling for a timeout until you hear a whistle. Good thing his teammates were savvy enough to help him out. Though the refs should’ve helped him out sooner by calling the reach on Ray Ray as soon as it became obvious what had happened.
And after the elbow, you still need to get your ass across half court and force one defender to at least stand near you. I’m sure he was in a ton of pain, but he couldn’t have forgotten that this is Game 5 of the Conf Finals and DET was out of timeouts.
I guess I was just surprised by all of that and certainly expected an experienced champ like Rip to have handled it differently.
As Game 5 of Lakers-Spurs approaches, a couple of things from Game 4.
The Barry/Fisher incident and the Lakers’ shot hitting the rim but being ruled an airball in the waning seconds aside, there were a couple of other iffy calls:
When Parker went in for that layup that was called goaltending on Odom, replays CLEARLY showed that was a block. It’s not even disputable. That was a blown call.
On Barry’s last second shot, before Fisher even jumped, Barry traveled. It wasn’t called, but by the letter of the NBA law, it was traveling. He established his right foot as his pivot foot and then lifted and stepped with it before dribbling.
That said, I don’t have a big problem with the Barry walk not being called, as the NBA doesn’t apply the traveling rule consistently, and many stars, including Kobe get away with similar plays a lot.
The bottom line is that the NBA should really take a look at improving the consistency of the officiating, which is highly subjective and all over the map at times.
[quote]Xeneize wrote:
As Game 5 of Lakers-Spurs approaches, a couple of things from Game 4.
The Barry/Fisher incident and the Lakers’ shot hitting the rim but being ruled an airball in the waning seconds aside, there were a couple of other iffy calls:
When Parker went in for that layup that was called goaltending on Odom, replays CLEARLY showed that was a block. It’s not even disputable. That was a blown call.
On Barry’s last second shot, before Fisher even jumped, Barry traveled. It wasn’t called, but by the letter of the NBA law, it was traveling. He established his right foot as his pivot foot and then lifted and stepped with it before dribbling.
That said, I don’t have a big problem with the Barry walk not being called, as the NBA doesn’t apply the traveling rule consistently, and many stars, including Kobe get away with similar plays a lot.
The bottom line is that the NBA should really take a look at improving the consistency of the officiating, which is highly subjective and all over the map at times. [/quote]
I think just letting players play is better then constantly blowing the whistle and slowing down the game. Of course you should call blatant fouls or travels but for the most part just let the game go on.
[quote]shizen wrote:
Xeneize wrote:
As Game 5 of Lakers-Spurs approaches, a couple of things from Game 4.
The Barry/Fisher incident and the Lakers’ shot hitting the rim but being ruled an airball in the waning seconds aside, there were a couple of other iffy calls:
When Parker went in for that layup that was called goaltending on Odom, replays CLEARLY showed that was a block. It’s not even disputable. That was a blown call.
On Barry’s last second shot, before Fisher even jumped, Barry traveled. It wasn’t called, but by the letter of the NBA law, it was traveling. He established his right foot as his pivot foot and then lifted and stepped with it before dribbling.
That said, I don’t have a big problem with the Barry walk not being called, as the NBA doesn’t apply the traveling rule consistently, and many stars, including Kobe get away with similar plays a lot.
The bottom line is that the NBA should really take a look at improving the consistency of the officiating, which is highly subjective and all over the map at times.
I think just letting players play is better then constantly blowing the whistle and slowing down the game. Of course you should call blatant fouls or travels but for the most part just let the game go on. [/quote]
As a general rule, I definitely agree with you.
Can’t say enough about the Spurs playoff experience and championship heart. If you’re going to take them out, it’s going to be a monumental struggle. Great response on the road by San Antonio so far.
Lakers making a run…
Farmar scores on an alley-oop.
Kobe is too good, Lakers are the western conference champions
I’m a Laker fan but Vujacic really pisses me off sometimes. Shooting that 3 before the buzzer is another reason why I wouldn’t mind letting him go at the end of the season.
YEAH LAKERS!
