2006 Tour De France

[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
This was from an email I received:

Let me see if you find this athlete’s backstory slightly more interesting than whether Barry Bonds will get indicted or Barbaro will ever walk again.

This athlete grew up a Mennonite in Lancaster County, Pa. His parents were against his pursuing his sport on religious grounds – they believed if he continued competing, he would go to hell – so his father sought to discourage him by trying to exhaust him with long hours of chores during the day. To no avail. He simply trained late at night, sometimes until 2 in the morning. Outside, in the dark and the rain and the snow and the ice and the subzero temperatures.

This man also served as a lieutenant to one of the most successful and popular athletes in America, helping him win repeated championships.

He took the lead in his sport’s biggest event one day and cracked physically the next day to fall hopelessly out of contention, yet somehow pulled himself back into the running the day after that with what many consider among the great performances in the sport’s history.

And oh, yes, one more thing. A previously broken hip now has the same problem that ended Bo Jackson’s career and will have to be replaced with an artificial one after this competition.

Interesting, huh? So why isn’t more attention directed to Floyd Landis?

Oh, I know. It’s cycling, and Americans watch cycling even less than they watch soccer. Fine, I can understand that. I can’t even say exactly why I enjoy watching the Tour de France. It goes on for hour after repetitive hour, with the monotony interrupted by an occasional breakaway that is almost always chased down. This is particularly true in the early stages. You watch the same type of images over and over followed by a last-second dash to the finish line. And yet I still find it very relaxing and oddly addictive.

But I can easily understand why others aren’t as eager to watch this acquired taste (especially as the races take place early in the day). What is less understandable is the lack of attention Landis is receiving in the media. It’s almost harder to watch TV without seeing “Law & Order” than it was to do so without seeing Armstrong as he went for his seventh Tour title. The attention was well-deserved, but where is the spotlight for Landis? I mean, this is an American who very well might extend our country’s Tour de France streak to eight consecutive victories. Yet there is more attention on Barbaro’s broken leg than Landis’ powerful legs.

It can’t all be about Lance, can it? Armstrong might have been a great champion but several of his victories also were almost a foregone conclusion midway through the Tour. That’s not the case this year, when there already have been seven riders to wear the yellow jersey, as well as riders flipping over guardrails, eating the pavement and cracking in the Alps.

That includes Landis, who in one three-day span of mountain stages, took the Tour lead, then lost it and fell out of the top 10 in one horrible ride, then nearly regained it with a spectacular ride Thursday that regained him nearly eight minutes. That last stage featured grueling climbs and a final sprint down the mountain. Landis’ comeback from Wednesday’s collapse was extraordinary, the stuff of legend.

Yet what was the day’s big news? Barry Bonds’ not being indicted.

We’re missing the boat on this one, but it’s not too late. The Tour is still very much up in the air and probably will come down to Saturday’s time trial, in which Landis is among the favorites (he is third overall, 30 seconds behind leader Oscar Pereiro, but is considered a better a time trialist than Pereiro). So do yourself a favor. Pop into the TV coverage Saturday morning. This could be the year’s most dramatic sports story that doesn’t involve an autistic manager.
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Nice post, i like the way you say that cycling is reptitive, addictive and relaxing, so true.

I don’t know what is wrong with the world the tour de france is never mentioned over in the uks news either, yet even cricket takes up most of the coverage. :s

This is probably the hardest event in the world (or one of) and no one cares.

I feel a bit ashamed now about being disappointed about Evans. I just read in the newspaper that he got a flat tyre in the time trial. The trouble was that the TV coverage was so focused on the top 3 riders that it was missed and was not widely reported.

However he did say that he just didn’t feel “right” on the day and didn’t get any rythym, which leads to a bad TT.

[quote]Amsterdam Animal wrote:
I was rooting for Evans but I was dissappointed in his final ITT. He is a great time trial rider and for Kloden to pass him like that, I think that says something about his form. If he ever wants to win one, which I think is possible, he cant give up 3 minutes in an ITT over 50 some kilometers.

bg100 wrote:
chrismcl wrote:
CC wrote:
So, because it’s over tomorrow, this will be my last newb question, I promise, lol.

Is the podium alread basically decided; has Floyd won it? Is it just Tour etiquette that you don’t attack on the ride to Champs-Elysees?

Amazing TT by Floyd, and of course Honchar again, by the way. Congrats to both.

Yes, I’m pretty sure that in the 93 years of the TdF being run, no General Classification (GC) contender has ever attacked during the last stage.

Oscar Perreiro might have the attitude to try it though, after all he did go out in a breakaway that won by 30 minutes last week! It would be tough with the sprinters trying to win on the Champs Elysees but if he can pick up some intermediate time bonuses you never know, he’s only down 1 minute, it is possible.

Even thought 5th is a great result, equalling the best ever result by an Aussie, I’m a bit disappointed with Evans, he needs to be able to attack on the mountains more, but hopefully his team next year will have a few riders capable of helping him climb, he had to do it all alone this year. It would have been a good learning experience for him though.

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
I still find it very relaxing and oddly addictive.[/quote]

That pretty much sums the whole thing up for me right there. I liked having the race on in front of me while I was doing work. I found it soothing when stressed out to watch the guys ride, for some reason.

I’m bummed that it’s over. I hope OLN shows other races throughout the year. I know the Tour of California is coming back, but that’s not until next spring…

I wonder if he’ll get to leave France with any of the prize money. They have a tax there called the ‘Solidaity Tax’ (I believe) which can exceed 100%.

This means that you bust your balls, earn a substantial sum, and actually pay more than you earned, all to help the poor.

The French are clearly some fucked up people.

HH

Interesting, I did not catch that eiter, I am sure that had something to do with it but 3 minutes? Landis switched bikes in the first ITT of 52 kms and only gave up 8 secs on Honchar. I would argue had it not been for that, he would have won that one. I am not a big Landis fan but I am just trying to illustrate you can still ride well even with an interruption like that.

[quote]bg100 wrote:
I feel a bit ashamed now about being disappointed about Evans. I just read in the newspaper that he got a flat tyre in the time trial. The trouble was that the TV coverage was so focused on the top 3 riders that it was missed and was not widely reported.

However he did say that he just didn’t feel “right” on the day and didn’t get any rythym, which leads to a bad TT.

Amsterdam Animal wrote:
I was rooting for Evans but I was dissappointed in his final ITT. He is a great time trial rider and for Kloden to pass him like that, I think that says something about his form. If he ever wants to win one, which I think is possible, he cant give up 3 minutes in an ITT over 50 some kilometers.

bg100 wrote:
chrismcl wrote:
CC wrote:
So, because it’s over tomorrow, this will be my last newb question, I promise, lol.

Is the podium alread basically decided; has Floyd won it? Is it just Tour etiquette that you don’t attack on the ride to Champs-Elysees?

Amazing TT by Floyd, and of course Honchar again, by the way. Congrats to both.

Yes, I’m pretty sure that in the 93 years of the TdF being run, no General Classification (GC) contender has ever attacked during the last stage.

Oscar Perreiro might have the attitude to try it though, after all he did go out in a breakaway that won by 30 minutes last week! It would be tough with the sprinters trying to win on the Champs Elysees but if he can pick up some intermediate time bonuses you never know, he’s only down 1 minute, it is possible.

Even thought 5th is a great result, equalling the best ever result by an Aussie, I’m a bit disappointed with Evans, he needs to be able to attack on the mountains more, but hopefully his team next year will have a few riders capable of helping him climb, he had to do it all alone this year. It would have been a good learning experience for him though.

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Not to long ago, I saw a special on a Cyclist named George Hincape. In many ways, he was painted as the “heir apparent” to Lance.

What happened to him?

(By the way; he seemed like a humble guy, and DID NOT paint himself in that way. It seemed more like the media and those around him, INCLUDING Lance.)

Mufasa

Hincapie is amoung the top 3 American road cylists at this time. He is more of a one-day racer than a grand tour contender, although he can still put in a respectable GC finish if luck was on his side (which it never is (Paris-Roubaix))

Kilo:

How did he do with in this past Tour?

Mufasa

It just goes to show you that riding in the service of Lance in the Tour is completely different from being a team leader.

I agree with you that he is more of a classic racer than a grand Tour contender.

Although unlucky in other races, I did not think a lack of luck had anything to do with his dissappointment in this year’s Tour. If you want to point to anything, it was his lack of good legs in the mountains that did not make him a contender in the GC. I was very suprised to see him drop on really the first series of elevations in the Pyrannees.

[quote]KiloSprinter wrote:
Hincapie is amoung the top 3 American road cylists at this time. He is more of a one-day racer than a grand tour contender, although he can still put in a respectable GC finish if luck was on his side (which it never is (Paris-Roubaix))[/quote]

[quote]Mufasa wrote:
How did he do with in this past Tour?
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He finished 1’11’’ back this year. Zabriskie, the other noted American rider in this year’s Tour, finished 2’33’’ back.

Congrats to Landis!

Local boy makes good.

But Zabriski was never thought of as a GC rider, Hincapie was.

Hincapie has performed much better in past Tours riding for Lance and now he is over an hour back riding as a team capo? Thats a huge dissapointment anyway you look at it.

The commercial to boost Discovery with Hincapie changed really fast as they got to the mountains, anyone else noticed that? I am not sure he was even the leader of Discovery at the end of the Tour, as Acevedo and Popovich both finished ahead of him in the GC if I am not mistaken.

[quote]CC wrote:
Mufasa wrote:
How did he do with in this past Tour?

He finished 1’11’’ back this year. Zabriskie, the other noted American rider in this year’s Tour, finished 2’33’’ back.

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[quote]Amsterdam Animal wrote:
But Zabriski was never thought of as a GC rider, Hincapie was.[/quote]

Oh, I’m sure you’re right, you know a lot more about it than I do. I was just making the comment that the updates mentioned him a lot simply because he’s American (as OLN is mainly looking at an American target audience, obviously).

I definitely noticed it. As soon as they hit the mountains the Team Disco commercials seem to vanish into thin air and all you saw was Floyd all over the place.

[quote]Amsterdam Animal wrote:
But Zabriski was never thought of as a GC rider, Hincapie was.

Hincapie has performed much better in past Tours riding for Lance and now he is over an hour back riding as a team capo? Thats a huge dissapointment anyway you look at it.

The commercial to boost Discovery with Hincapie changed really fast as they got to the mountains, anyone else noticed that? I am not sure he was even the leader of Discovery at the end of the Tour, as Acevedo and Popovich both finished ahead of him in the GC if I am not mistaken.

CC wrote:
Mufasa wrote:
How did he do with in this past Tour?

He finished 1’11’’ back this year. Zabriskie, the other noted American rider in this year’s Tour, finished 2’33’’ back.

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Hincapie never lasted beyond the early slopes in any of the time he was riding for Lance. He was an effective rouleur and obviously a quality classics rider but him as a GC rider was wishful thinking. Popovych looks like a better GC contender for the future amongst that squad even though he did nothing (in the GC, at least) this year.

[quote]etaco wrote:

Hincapie never lasted beyond the early slopes in any of the time he was riding for Lance. He was an effective rouleur and obviously a quality classics rider but him as a GC rider was wishful thinking. Popovych looks like a better GC contender for the future amongst that squad even though he did nothing (in the GC, at least) this year.[/quote]

Ummmm… does the 2005 TDF St-Lary Soulan climb (probably the toughest stage of the 2005 tour) ring a bell? I’m not disagreeing that he may not be the best GC contender but to say he can’t climb is a false statement.

[quote]trailrash wrote:
etaco wrote:
Hincapie never lasted beyond the early slopes in any of the time he was riding for Lance. He was an effective rouleur and obviously a quality classics rider but him as a GC rider was wishful thinking. Popovych looks like a better GC contender for the future amongst that squad even though he did nothing (in the GC, at least) this year.

Ummmm… does the 2005 TDF St-Lary Soulan climb (probably the toughest stage of the 2005 tour) ring a bell? I’m not disagreeing that he may not be the best GC contender but to say he can’t climb is a false statement.

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Poor choice of words on my part. That he- like many other classics specialists- can win in the mountains occasionally when all the circumstances come together still doesnt make him a climber. He has improved substantially in the hills over recent years though, but he’s kinda out of time when it comes to the sort of transformation that needs to be made.

Landis tests positive, details to follow…

I started a separate thread on this, it has the link etc.

[quote]Amsterdam Animal wrote:
Landis tests positive, details to follow…[/quote]