2000mg + of Test

1400lb total is nice Reed, I’m on a comeback to hit 1500, I’ll be pissed if you hit it first, I might have to cross over to the dark side. Nice work though Bro, especialy while loosing weight, makes it that much harder. At your weight, or say you get to 198, I think 1600 starts to put you in some record books, atleast at state level.

The big boys 275 are only playing around at 1800-2000, so if you can keep your weight low, and push for 1600+ you’ll be getting some reconition, and mabey a lucrative contract, should mabey keep some of these cycles on the down low, in case that happen’s. If you ever got a contract they’ll want you to say it was they’re pre workout sups that got you to 1600 Remember Reed, it’s a ‘‘secret’’ :slight_smile:

[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
1400lb total is nice Reed, I’m on a comeback to hit 1500, I’ll be pissed if you hit it first, I might have to cross over to the dark side. Nice work though Bro, especialy while loosing weight, makes it that much harder. At your weight, or say you get to 198, I think 1600 starts to put you in some record books, atleast at state level.

The big boys 275 are only playing around at 1800-2000, so if you can keep your weight low, and push for 1600+ you’ll be getting some reconition, and mabey a lucrative contract, should mabey keep some of these cycles on the down low, in case that happen’s. If you ever got a contract they’ll want you to say it was they’re pre workout sups that got you to 1600 Remember Reed, it’s a ‘‘secret’’ :)[/quote]

Haha well better get going Jake. My meet in March I want 1500 bad. 575 Squat/ 335 Bench/ 600 Deadlift is what I want big time. I’m ready to go and its doable. Thanks for the kind words as well.

Yeah I have thought about stuff like that but, at the end of the day I almost dont know how I feel about lying saying some supplement drink is the reason I went all out. I know guys do every day but, I pride my self on my Integrity and straight forwardness. I just don’t know if I could just mislead people and say here drink this and you will be a monster knowing its not true. But, at the same time if I could ever get sponsored and make money it would be a honor… I just hope I dont have to sell out my beliefs in order for it to happen.

[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
1400lb total is nice Reed, I’m on a comeback to hit 1500, I’ll be pissed if you hit it first, I might have to cross over to the dark side. Nice work though Bro, especialy while loosing weight, makes it that much harder. At your weight, or say you get to 198, I think 1600 starts to put you in some record books, atleast at state level.

The big boys 275 are only playing around at 1800-2000, so if you can keep your weight low, and push for 1600+ you’ll be getting some reconition, and mabey a lucrative contract, should mabey keep some of these cycles on the down low, in case that happen’s. If you ever got a contract they’ll want you to say it was they’re pre workout sups that got you to 1600 Remember Reed, it’s a ‘‘secret’’ :)[/quote]

Haha well better get going Jake. My meet in March I want 1500 bad. 575 Squat/ 335 Bench/ 600 Deadlift is what I want big time. I’m ready to go and its doable. Thanks for the kind words as well.

Yeah I have thought about stuff like that but, at the end of the day I almost dont know how I feel about lying saying some supplement drink is the reason I went all out. I know guys do every day but, I pride my self on my Integrity and straight forwardness. I just don’t know if I could just mislead people and say here drink this and you will be a monster knowing its not true. But, at the same time if I could ever get sponsored and make money it would be a honor… I just hope I dont have to sell out my beliefs in order for it to happen.

[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
1400lb total is nice Reed, I’m on a comeback to hit 1500, I’ll be pissed if you hit it first, I might have to cross over to the dark side. Nice work though Bro, especialy while loosing weight, makes it that much harder. At your weight, or say you get to 198, I think 1600 starts to put you in some record books, atleast at state level.

The big boys 275 are only playing around at 1800-2000, so if you can keep your weight low, and push for 1600+ you’ll be getting some reconition, and mabey a lucrative contract, should mabey keep some of these cycles on the down low, in case that happen’s. If you ever got a contract they’ll want you to say it was they’re pre workout sups that got you to 1600 Remember Reed, it’s a ‘‘secret’’ :)[/quote]

This^^^^

You gota tell everyone its the new and improved animal formula that made you gain hundreds of pounds to your total while losing weight.

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

…damn reed i was doing research for a friend and your pic popped up on another google search[/quote]

haha

@ Reed Seems you are considering running some HGH, before you do just thought I’s say that from what I read using a GHRP to make your body create its own GH is much more effective, as you know I have got some I’m about to run with Test and Tren on much lower dosages than you of course but these are what I went for after a lot of reading on the subject;

Ipamorelin
MOD GRF 1-29
PEG MGF

[quote]Sam_Boy wrote:
@ Reed Seems you are considering running some HGH, before you do just thought I’s say that from what I read using a GHRP to make your body create its own GH is much more effective, as you know I have got some I’m about to run with Test and Tren on much lower dosages than you of course but these are what I went for after a lot of reading on the subject;

Ipamorelin
MOD GRF 1-29
PEG MGF

[/quote]

I just don’t really know where to get it or anything about how to honestly use it and have heard alot of mixed things about it. But ill look into it any ways just for giggles.

[quote]niksamaras wrote:

[quote]Dementeddragon wrote:
Yeah I’d say to add the hGH as a priority for injury prevention and slightly more growth, around 8iu every 2-3 days intramuscularly would be great in my opinion. Suspension pre-w/o and then enanthate to make up the rest. Sounds good.[/quote]

Well, BB had said that IV is the best way to administer GH if you want maximum growth out of it. I am NOT suggesting it(as I have never ran GH so I have no experience), just some food for thought.[/quote]

…hey bro not to hijack thread but because several people here had hit the below past thread, wanted to know if anyone ever followed through.

no other information just yes or no. my answer is no.

http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_gear/home_brew_4?id=5480293&pageNo=0

Yes I have but I didn’t do it from that thread.

@ REED Well just to share some knowledge back with you as you have helped me lots;

Basically HGH is synthetic HGH that you inject yourself with and has much the same effects on growth hormone that injecting synthetic testosterone does it hampers your own production but gives you the boost when you put it in.

HGH fragment is a fragment of the above which makes it just do the portion you want it to.

GHRP-2 , GHRP-6 and Ipamorelin are peptides that tells your body to release its own growth hormone which means natural production doesn’t suffer when you come off. GHRP-2 is the strongest but Ipamorelin doesn’t cause the severe hunger or hit other receptors that you don’t need to be hit. I went with Ipamorelin as a GHRP.

If you are just using this to build then the frequency is 1-3 times per day for these pins sub q but as growth hormone comes in spurts naturally you don’t need to worry about keeping levels stable like test so I have included it with my twice per week test pins to get a growth hormone spurt each time.

GHRH’s have a synergistic effect on the GH releasing peptides and there are basically two types one which causes a natural bleed over time (with DAC) that gives a longer effect but doesn’t mimic the natural way your body does it and some people are quite anti this but there is a without DAC that only has an effect when you pin for the time it lasts which I believe is around 4 hours. This is called MOD GRF 1-29 and is what I opted for as a GHRH.

Finally there is a choice between IGF and MGF which both have a synergistic effect with the GHRH and GHRP, I chose MGF over IGF mainly due to price but I did read that MGF again has less negative effects on your bodies own natural methods. I opted for PEG MGF which essentially is a peptide version of a long ester.

Hope all that helps and if you are going to add them to your pins they can be IM or sub Q and from what I read combining these with an AAS cycle would be these doses;

100mcg of each per day with a per day test like acetate or what I am doing is 200mcg of each twice per week with a twice per week test like enanthate.

Whats about the price range for it you have found.

MOD GRF 1-29 £32 for 5mg
Ipamorelin £20 for 5mg
PEG MGF £26.50 for 2mg

Is what I have just paid mate, have to buy the water to mix it with though as these come freeze dried in vial.

Check with your normal AAS supplier.

[quote]Sam_Boy wrote:
MOD GRF 1-29 £32 for 5mg
Ipamorelin £20 for 5mg
PEG MGF £26.50 for 2mg

Is what I have just paid mate, have to buy the water to mix it with though as these come freeze dried in vial.

Check with your normal AAS supplier. [/quote]

I make almost all my own stuff so unless I have access to raw ingredients I have a hard time finding stuff like this.

Well the theory behind peptides is great but many, including me, have gotten zero results from them. And I do mean zero. I haven’t used HGH but I’m sure I’d know after a few weeks if it’s working or not. I’d ask what’s more effective: test boosters or 1g of Test E a week? But I’m not even sure peptides have boosted anything for me. I would have loved for it to work, no doubt. But IMO there’s a reason they’re not popular at all after they were all the rage a few years back.

real hgh is what he is talking about.

some of the research chemical peptides are bunk or have little or no results. melatonan II is the only one i have “read” consistent results obtained.

You make your own stuff do you that’s crazy, kudos for that though.

I think the expectations of the peptides are a little high from people who run AAS which is why people don’t think they do anything. From what I have read if you were to do the 3 peptides I have selected on their own you would only add some extra muscle during a phase you would be naturally putting on muscle anyway but they have a lot more health benefits and no shut down. Where my interest in them is and I imagine yours to Reed will be their synergistic effect with an AAS.

Gonna sound like a total asshole here, but dude… You barely look like you use gear, let alone 2 grams of test. Your stuff is bunk, I read you make it yourself, but now way is it real. I’d believe you if you told me you use HRT doses like 200mg. What the fuckin’ hell are you thinking? NObody has had the balls to point this out yet? Someone has to tell the emperor he’s wearing no clothes…

I give props when I see good pics and all, but this is sad.

[quote]ritch1 wrote:
Gonna sound like a total asshole here, but dude… You barely look like you use gear, let alone 2 grams of test. Your stuff is bunk, I read you make it yourself, but now way is it real. I’d believe you if you told me you use HRT doses like 200mg. What the fuckin’ hell are you thinking? NObody has had the balls to point this out yet? Someone has to tell the emperor he’s wearing no clothes…

I give props when I see good pics and all, but this is sad.[/quote]

Lol ok I guess the 400lbs to my total in less than 6 months is just a coincidence and the blood work is through the roof is due to my doctor faking the tests. Maybe I dont look like I use 2g of test because I have never used 2g of test before. However a 5’6 210lbs bodyweight 17" Biceps, 27" Thighs, 34" waist not a complete fat ass its not unreasonable especially considering I have only been training for powerlifting for 1 year since I got out of the military last November @ 160lbs body weight. Lastly considering I hardly do any volume type work hypertrophy would stay minimal even with the drugs.

Reed, since this has become your log, I was wondering why the 10inch box squats, I use a 14inch bucket, and was wondering if this was because of our hight difference, I’m 6ft so 14inch box puts me about 1inch below paralle, or your trying to acomplish somthing by going lower. Our squats are about the same right now, so I was just wondering your reasoning. I generally use a 16inch box to break new ground, then rework to get the same weight with 14inch box, then rework to get the same weight without the box. I can add 10-20lbs a month with this routine, so I was wondering about the low box. I’m always looking for an edge, and you seem to like being out on it, pushing the bounderies. Thanks

[quote]AnytimeJake wrote:
Reed, since this has become your log, I was wondering why the 10inch box squats, I use a 14inch bucket, and was wondering if this was because of our hight difference, I’m 6ft so 14inch box puts me about 1inch below paralle, or your trying to acomplish somthing by going lower. Our squats are about the same right now, so I was just wondering your reasoning. I generally use a 16inch box to break new ground, then rework to get the same weight with 14inch box, then rework to get the same weight without the box. I can add 10-20lbs a month with this routine, so I was wondering about the low box. I’m always looking for an edge, and you seem to like being out on it, pushing the bounderies. Thanks[/quote]

I use a 10-12 because I have such short legs if I use anything else its just at parrell and a 16" in would be a pretty high box squat for me.