What are the current thoughts on 2 on 2 off? What are the off times like? How long can someone do 2 on 2 offs, and how long of a break is necessary between groups of 2 ons 2 offs. Is there proof that 2 on 2 off is safer than just staying on? I’d like to hear about the 2 on 2 off idea, but I’d think I’d prefer to just stay on for a few months and then do PCT.
That way there’s one crash and then normal hormone levels. A month of low hormone levels instead of several months of low hormone levels seems preferable, but maybe I’m wrong. It seems like some people don’t even have a crash from a normal cycle when they do a test taper with hcg.
Youre not allowed to delete or edit posts on this forum. I’m wondering if anyone here has tried it and what their opinions are of it, in particular how PCT is with the 2 on 4 off.
Last time I posted a simular Q, Bill Roberts mentioned its a personal choice. Some feel great 2om/2off, and others prefer 2on/4off. Ive recently completed a 2on/4off with dbol and tren and it went very well, Although I feel I might be able to go 2on/3off.
-I just began a new 2 weeker myself with dbol, winn, and test prop and think I might see how it goes. 2on/4off recovery is perfect-no crash, felt like i was still on until about the third week off.
As for 2on/2off, I believe I read its ok to do that rotation roughly 3 times before taking 4-6 weeks off. -its indevidual.
In my experience, even while using tren during my 2-on cycle, and no HCG (due to logistics) and using 40mg/day tamoxifen week 1, then 20mg/day week two, then nothing last two weeks. So 2on 4 off
Recovery was full and complete, libido was robust throughout, balls were bigger than ever, insomnia quickly abated. Gains depreciated by week 3, but when 2nd 2on/4off cycle was begun, “gains” (i.e muscle fullness and strength measured in terms of weight lifted in the room in which you lift weights, eh a gym) returned dramatically by end of week 1.
I carefully logged this.
I kept most of it after 7 weeks off following surgery (where little training was done) over the summer, kept “msot” of my strength, and now am doing realyl well on start of new two week cycle.
I love these cycles - although i miss the RABID libido of my first cylce earlier this year which was a 6 weeker.
[quote]WyldFlower wrote:
In my experience, even while using tren during my 2-on cycle, and no HCG (due to logistics) and using 40mg/day tamoxifen week 1, then 20mg/day week two, then nothing last two weeks. So 2on 4 off
Recovery was full and complete, libido was robust throughout, balls were bigger than ever, insomnia quickly abated. Gains depreciated by week 3, but when 2nd 2on/4off cycle was begun, “gains” (i.e muscle fullness and strength measured in terms of weight lifted in the room in which you lift weights, eh a gym) returned dramatically by end of week 1.
I carefully logged this.
I kept most of it after 7 weeks off following surgery (where little training was done) over the summer, kept “msot” of my strength, and now am doing realyl well on start of new two week cycle.
I love these cycles - although i miss the RABID libido of my first cylce earlier this year which was a 6 weeker.[/quote]
Just from peoples experience with these 2on/x off cycles, did they find that the 2 months were long enough to experience substantial gains. Obviously using quick acting esters or tabs?
I always find I start “feeling” the juice week 3, so the 2 on method may be cutting it a wee bit short, just looking for opinions…
When doing 2 week cycles it is necessary to frontload and use short-acting esters.
If trying the cycle the way that many do longer cycles – long acting esters and no frontload – then indeed it is common to see no gains in the first 2 weeks, which can lead to doubting whether a 2 week cycle can accomplish anything.
When doing 2 week cycles it is necessary to frontload and use short-acting esters.
If trying the cycle the way that many do longer cycles – long acting esters and no frontload – then indeed it is common to see no gains in the first 2 weeks, which can lead to doubting whether a 2 week cycle can accomplish anything.