Have any of you regular AAS users taken test enthanate and not noticed results or significant results?
I started a cycle and have been on for 4.5 weeks, I have noticed hardly anything. My lifts have gone up but just like they normally would when I increase my caloric intake. My muscle gain is nothing spectacular, 4-5lbs or so.
It is really frustrating, cause I have heard of so many guys gaining 20+ lbs there first cycle while getting more lean. I am taking 250mg every third day, with a 750mg front load.
At first I thought it was cause I have very high natural test levels, but I know that is not the case. From what I have read your test levels while ‘on’ are far beyond anything natural. Do the gains just take a long time? Hell my cycle is only 8 weeks.
[quote]razii wrote:
Many people see test e kicking in around weeks 5-6 so I shouldn’t be worried, but I’d do a longer cycle if that’s the case…
Or maybe you got bad gear? [/quote]
Intersting you meantion ‘kicking in’ as I read this ‘kicking in’ a lot and to be frank it does sound suspect when referring to actual anabolic action in the body, and is contrary to what lots of other users report.
If it takes weeks to be noticeable then what does that really mean? It simply cannot mean that Test levels havent risen enough yet, that should happen very quickly even with an injectable. Nor can it be that androgen receptors hang around waiting until they get hit x times in a row before they ‘realise’ that they’re supposed to respond, that isnt how the physiology works.
It should start ‘working’ very quickly. The ‘kicking in’ perception many talk about is, I suspect, more the consequence of increased blood volume (bigger pumps) and other factors that are cumulative - including the fact that a 12 lb gain, as example, won’t be noticeable until it’s several lbs in, i.e. after 2-3 weeks on and that strength increases wont come all at once either.
The OP perhaps has a dud product or it is underdosed (But dont now go crazy injecting each day!!).
However the OP might already be very near the so called ‘natural limit’ and 4-5lbs, if lean body mass, is pretty good in the time scale! Other factors like training stimuli, sleep, quality of diet and so on would, i’m confident, affect this too.
Vikingrob - would you be dissapointed if the rate remained constant for the 8 weeks, i.e 8-10lbs total (if is lean muscle you’re adding)?
Id say if youvr been on for 4.5 weeks and dont know or cant feel the test at around 585mg per week, and being test enth. Its probably bunk. Trust me you can feel effects of near 600mg test enth quickly, strength is a bit slower.
Thanks for the replies, that is why I love this site.
I would be ok with 8-10 lbs of weight gain. I guess I was just expecting more. I have seen so many guys on my old team and in the gym who blew up with strength and size gains while on. The truth is, I have little desire to weigh over 275, my main goal was strength gains. I have noticed nothing spectacular. Does just plain test give great strength gains?
Either my gear is bunk/underdosed or I was expecting to much, but I know I am not at my natural limit. Everyone always talks about there ‘first time’ being unbelievable…that is what I was hoping for.
Have you had any other effects? Increased libido, oily skin, increased pumps, etc? I know that if I were at your point, I would be seeing some good strength gains, especially with big compound movements.