1st Cycle

I’m 34 and for the past 4 years I have trained hard. About 9 months ago the doctor had me do a bloodtest to see where my T levels were at, they were pretty low and he started me on HRT with Test Cyp injections of 200mg every 3 weeks.

I wasn’t getting much out of that so I decided to do a 12 week cycle of Test Cyp at 500mgs a week (2 shots of 250mgs every 3.5 days). This is my seventh week and I have had good gains and I’m feeling a lot better. I was planning on using Clomid at 100 mgs for the first 2 weeks and 50 mgs for the last 2 weeks. I have also heard about tapering the Test Cyp for a few weeks as well. If anyone out there could provide me with feedback I sure would appreciate. Thanks alot guys! mj34

check P22’s test taper thread. use the search engine to find it. he sums it up well.

200mg e3w isn’t very much test. I thought HRT doses were like 100-200mg/w

also cyp needs to be shot more than e3w to have stable levels. I would say once a week would be the max you would want to stretch it.

Eman is on HRT and a good source of info. You should ask him what a good dosing schedule is.

Clomid, Nolva, and Tapering might not do much for you if your natural levels are low. I would think you’d be better off tapering down to about 100-200mg/w and just cruising rather than coming off if you wanna hold onto your gains. Otherwise you are gonna come off cycle and lose everything you just gained.

Thanks for the info Furious. Basically, even though I’m doing a 12 week cycle on Test Cyp at 500mgs per week, if I was to go off of the Test and use a ancillary drug such as Clomid it wouldn’t benefit me,instead it would undo all of the progress that I gained while running the cycle. This is due to the low T-levels that I have, is what you are saying? However, after the 12 weeks at 500mgs per week if I was to drop down to 100-200mgs per week this would be the best way to keep some of the gains that I made during the cycle.
Once again thanks FURIOUS.

MJ34,

What are you going to to do when your testes shrink? Doing cycles on top of TRT is one thing, but not taking HCG seems crazy at your age. Suggest 250iu SQ EOD.

T every 3 weeks is insane. You probably need 100mg/wk at a minimum.

The E may get you too.

Edit: BTW, if you are going to stay on a base level of TRT, which seems like something you will need to do, there is no point in doing anything PCT related. You will not be recovering HPTA activity, you will always be shut down if you are on any effective TRT, so PCT is not going to do anything. But HCG will keep your testes working all the time. You will have to take HCG at part of your TRT.

It takes a long time to get stable on TRT. Better to find a doc to get things done right and not be doing this.