1st Cycle in 10 years

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I have a question about my upcoming cycle I plan to take, or two cycles sort of back to back I should say.

A little background: Took two cycles 10 years ago, first cycle just Test E, second was fake Test P and Anavar. The Test P was hard to workout and didn’t provide any results.

I plan to take EQ ( for my second cycle) but I first want to rebuild my body since I have two hernias and a few other injuries. I don’t want to bulk to fast or big right off the bad until I heal the hernia in my neck. I plan to take a Test with Anavar for the first cycle in ten years and will look something like this:

Test E: 400-500/mgs/wk for 1-14 weeks (see how my body reacts to a long term cycle since I only done 12 weeks and EQ requires longer and want to test it out before I start the EQ cycle say 5-8 months after this cycle)

Anavar: 6-14 weeks (8 weeks total, starting at 50mg and going up to 75-80mgs at most)

Will be using an AI of course and standard 4-week PCT (clomid and Nolva, 2 weeks after my cycle).

Was planning on running HCG from week 8-14/16. (please comment if this doesn’t look right, I don’t want to take it from the start of the cycle)

Second cycle about 5-8 months after the end of cycle one. Will be the same but test will bump up to 16 weeks and EQ added from 1-14 weeks and anavar will be the last 6 weeks instead of 8 weeks.

Reason using Anavar is because I want to gain mass but limit water retention. First cycle ten years ago, I gained 24/lbs and was reaally puffy like someone on dbol lol

Will be getting blood work before, during at least once or twice and then after PCT (Please let me know if I should get more)

Of course diet will be 100% with liver support

Stats:
5’11
175-180lbs / 80-82kgs (Yes I’m small for the amount of time training)
34/yrs old
I’ve been lifting for 15+ years but have had alot of injuries along the way and just trying to catch up lost ground.

*Some ppl say EQ will be best to help prevent injuries hence I’m thinking of doing it this cycle and just skip the second cycle and run another one in a year or two instead but I’m afraid of gaining 20-30 pounds which will be alot for my body. I was thinking 400-500mg test (16/wks) and 400mg EQ (14/wks) with 6 weeks of Anavar. Curious if I should do this instead of two cycles in one year.

Please let know if I’m missing anything and if you can help with HCG questions. Thanks alot guys!

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This is pretty much the opposite reason for using PEDs. They enhance risk of injury. Muscle get bigger and stronger while connective tissue does not. Catching up from old muscle is best done naturally, slowly with prior injuries, and then consider PEDs.

Since you’re going to ignore sound advice as 90% of posters do, your first layout looks fine.

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Agree with @blshaw

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Thanks alot for your feedback. The idea is to add mass yes, but it’s also to help heal some injuires. Anavar is suppose to help with that. If I did just the first cycle, add say a solid 10-12 lbs and nothing more, you still think it’ll be counterproductive?

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No it’s not. All AAS are gonna create inflammation. Fix your injuries first and then think about drugs when you’re 100%. Steroids are for building muscle.

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Sure. That is one of the reasons Anavar was researched and developed. The originators never intended Anavar as a muscle enhancer for bodybuilding or athletic optimization. It was prescribed to assist the healing process in a recovery environment.

Here is a small excerpt of the medical benefits of Anavar:

Oxandrolone has been researched and prescribed as a treatment for a wide variety of conditions. It was FDA-approved for treating [bone pain] associated with [osteoporosis], aiding [weight gain] following surgery or [physical trauma] during [chronic infection], or in the context of unexplained [weight loss], and counteracting the [catabolic] effect of long-term [corticosteroid] therapy. Oxandrolone is used to quicken recovery from severe burns.

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The problem with this is context. For his situation anabolic steroids are the opposite of what he needs.

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That is pretty much exactly what I implied.

I suppose what bothers me the most is that most people today think anabolic steroids invented in the 1950’s, ‘60’s, and ‘70’s were made for bodybuilders, lifters, and athletes. Nothing could be further from the truth.

When I started using AAS most people knew nothing about anabolic steroids. And if you talked with a doctor or intern about steroids, he thought you were talking about corticosteroids.

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I believe this to be wrong. 99% of thesee guys want to blast a 20+/wk cycle using 3-7 compounds and try to gain 30+lbs and think only they should use AAS. I believe it can be used for Therp reasons and can help heal you too. I will run the Test and Var cycle and let you know after the cycle if it helped or made it worst.

My main reason I’m doing this is to heal my neck. I’ve been out of the gym for 3 months without any results, in fact just got worst. I believe the Test will help heal and recover alot and just stick to non-overhead exerciers. Again, I will update you all in 3-4 months with results. I do respect everyones comments on the post and appericate your time to answer! All love no hate

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So why did you you come on here and ask then if your not gonna listen? Typical.

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I do too. But at least you can proceed with some caution when lifting weights. It is not ideal for PR’s.

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I was aaskingg which cycle I should take. you answered it, the first one. EQ wont help with injuriess.

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Yes exactly. Dont try to gain 20+ lbs and go over board. Just lift normally, use it as an aid and let it do its magic. hence why I’m only using 400mg of Test oer week

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This makes me smile. That is twice as much testosterone as I ever took per week in the three decades that I used AAS. I would think that 200mg/wk would be more than sufficient to support the use of Anavar for therapeutic purposes.

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You should be taking no cycle until you sort your injuries. I think you have misconstrued what everyone is telling you. AAS that were developed for recovery are for things like muscle wasting and burn recovery and bone issues. Things like tendon issues and joint problems will only get worse if you use drugs to push through.

You do you man but i can guarantee you will only exacerbate the injury.
Good luck.

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Orrrrrr pick ONE SERM for 6 to 8 weeks starting three weeks after your cycle