190, 5'7 - Hope I Don't Get Ripped

If Physique is your goal, you need to stop worrying about max numbers and switch your training around. Your obviously building some muscle but depending on where you started more fat then muscle. At 20 I don’t think you need to worry about dieting to cut, but you have to control your calories from gaining excessively more fat. OR switch your training.

My suggestion is if your diet is as clean as you say then concentrate on your training first. At your height unless your using steriods you shouldn’t try to pack on 20lbs in 3 months again. Without knowing anything you are doing I would say choose a program lik DC, or any other high volume/metabolic training program and follow it to a T. you will have much better results.

[quote]dez6485 wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:

[quote]dez6485 wrote:

[quote]eeu743 wrote:
I’ve beaten the dead horse so many times about lifts that I just don’t find believable based on personal experience, so I’ll just say congratulations on being as strong or slightly stronger than me without really looking like it.[/quote]

if you dont find his lifts believable based on your own personal experience, thats because you are weak. the lifts OP listed arent impressive (sorry guy, no offense), so if theyre stronger than yours, youre just weak. [/quote]

Lolz that’s actually totally ok by me. I feel bad for all the people here that are doing “deep squats” with 4 plates a side and deadlifting six hundred pounds, and still have average looking physiques and small legs. I don’t have to come anywhere close to those numbers to make my legs grow, I guess I’ve got it easy.[/quote]

dont confuse the issue- if little baby weights make your muscles grow, so be it. but being weak doesnt mean you need to doubt others’ numbers. its actually pretty funny that you comment that based on “your experience” his numbers arent believable, as he is then stronger than you, then you comment that you “dont have to” use heavy weights, as if youre choosing to be weak. think about it- its funny. [/quote]

I would echo what eeu is saying, and no I don’t believe he means that he chooses to lift light weights or that “baby weights” (?) cause him to grow. He means that he lets the work his muscles will receive dictate the weight he’s going to use, not abandon everything for the sake of jerking a heavier weight from point A to point B.

One thing that seems to be lost on a lot of people getting into this sport nowadays is that there needs to be some degree of mind-muscle-connection during even the biggest lifts. If you are squatting 300lbs with a stance 2 feet wider than your shoulders, barely hitting parallel if that, with your shins perpendicular to the floor and your torso at a 45 degree angle… yes you will technically be squatting more weight, but don’t expect that to build any kind of thigh muscle.

There IS a difference if 300lbs is a weight you can actually handle while burying it down in the hole with a shoulder width stance and keeping your torso upright.

Same thing with the butt-lift-elbow-flap form a lot of people use on DB benching that I see.

A lot of these guys seem to be trying to just get the weight up as “efficiently” as possible on every exercises, forgetting to make the target muscles do the work.

You aren’t supposed to sacrifice focus on the muscle for more weight, these things are supposed to progress together hand-in-hand if you want to see some muscles growing.

I don’t understand what the OP is expecting from posting these pics.

You are fat. You don’t look like an athlete. Work harder.

Mormon from Utah - I hope you do get ripped, :slight_smile: after you add some more muscle. Keep at it

Your hope is denied.

5’7 at 190? Unless you’re below 10% body fat for the love of god don’t post in this part of the forum. How long have you been lifting for? The fact you felt you needed to let us know you haven’t touched the juice makes me think you feel like you’re jacked and deserve to be rated on this forum, honestly if I saw you outside the gym I would not be able to tell you lift weights.

I’ll actually agree with eeu here, I don’t believe that 405 x3 deadlift, not with proper form anyways ( and I can do that for 8-10 so it’s not because I can’t touch it.)

Anywho, just chucking my .02 in.

Oh yeah , hop on the fucking tread mill , i think that 20 lbs in 3 months was all fat.

Use what others say to motivate yourself. Get a digital camera, a camera phone, borrow a friends camera whatever you can get and yank 405x3 and shut up some unbelievers if you say you can do it. Clean up your diet, train hard, come back in 6 months ten lbs heavier but at under 10% bodyfat. Read everything you can on diet and training. Set some goals and work towards them. If others want to criticize then at least offer up some of your expert advice.

I am natural, never touched the juice.

Get outta here?

You look terrible. You don’t look like you lift. You look fat. I would not ever post pics like this. Work ass of in gym for another few years. Lose body fat. Than post pics.

[quote]Airtruth wrote:
If Physique is your goal, you need to stop worrying about max numbers and switch your training around. Your obviously building some muscle but depending on where you started more fat then muscle. At 20 I don’t think you need to worry about dieting to cut, but you have to control your calories from gaining excessively more fat. OR switch your training.

My suggestion is if your diet is as clean as you say then concentrate on your training first. At your height unless your using steriods you shouldn’t try to pack on 20lbs in 3 months again. Without knowing anything you are doing I would say choose a program lik DC, or any other high volume/metabolic training program and follow it to a T. you will have much better results.[/quote]

Are you really recommending DC for this guy?.. Oh btw, DC isnt high volume.