I took all assorted types of 19- Nor- diones and diol’s 6+ years ago. I’m getting masterdrol(IDS) tomorrow. I was curious to know the difference between the two supplements. I’m also curious to know which has more harmful side-effects. Is one superior to the other? Any info appreciated folks…thanks
Done alot of reading online, and couldn’t find answers…
alot of views and no responses…No guru T-Nation members knows?
Search Superdrol for information on Masterdrol. They are the same compound I believe, only Masterdrol has milk thistle and hawthorne berry added in. Masterdrol is very toxic on the liver(as is any methyl based oral steroid which is basically all this is if I’m not mistaken) so I took an extra dose of an actual milk thistle vitamin daily.
Along with liver-rite liver aid, or you could try liv52. 4 Weeks at 20mg’s did a lot for me, I would try 10 for a few days then 20, then 30 if you don’t notice anything. I stayed with 20 as 30mg brought about extreme lower back pumps.
For PCT I used Nolvadex and Formadrol. This was my cycle, didnt notice any shutdown and I kept all of my gains in both strength and mass. (forwarned I was a beginner and shouldnt have taken but this is what worked for me)
1st week two days at 10mg then bumped up to 20mg
2nd 20mg daily
3rd - same except bumped up to 30 for a few days and then back down to 20.
4th 20mg masterdrol, 30mg Nolva (3 10mg tabs of tamifoxen citrate) and 2 tabs of formadrol.
5th 20 mg tamifoxen citrate, 2 formadrol.
6th 20 mg tamifoxen citrate, 1 formadrol.
7th 10 mg tamifoxen citrate, 1 formadrol.
Extra 1000mg Milk Thistle and 2 liver rite tabs daily throughout the entire cycle. Drink lots of water… lots
Would 6-oxo be helpful during the first 3 week period of the cycle? Or should it be used for PCT only?
I get the feeling masterdrol is more dangerous than 19 nor 4 diol was…
Yes, there is a TON of negative feedback from masterdrol. Including complaints of gyno, liver pains and all kinds of other stuff. There is a lot of water retention to. If you were going to compare this to something else… to me a closer example would be (sadly) anadrol 50.
Like I said you may get better results from searching superdrol, but when I was researching it I found a ton of info on masterdrol as well.
As far as the 6-oxo I don’t know… what you have to remember is that your not dealing with a “normal” supplement here. Which is why I didn’t do just an over the counter ‘supplemental’ pct. I don’t recommend just taking 6-oxo.
I do not know much about steroids or the subject this is just from my experience.
I think the masterdrol would be more toxic for one, and I believe the masterdrol is derived form a different parent molecule than the norandro diones and norandrodiols; That’s why they’re still legal and the norandros aren’t.
Would it be a good idea to take PCT supplments during cycle? Or just Before and after…If its not a good idea, what should I take during cycle besides milk thistle?
its not a supplement its a designer steroid.