So now I’m taking to many carbs? I made this based on the advice given. Should I be having less carbs and more protein? I’m gettin really confused now.
You’re fine. As long as you’re training the carbs are totally OK.
I train 6 days a week. I will see how this goes and adjust if necessary.
Also is my pre and post carbs at a good level or should they be increased? I’m never sure how much I should have before and after.
The problem with following articles like the one attached is this stuff is not a one size fits all.
The math in the article has me consuming 390 grams of carbs per day. That may work for some…
If I consume 390 grams of carbs per day I would GAIN weight - a lot. I think the article is a good place to start, but diet is such trial and error.
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Don’t worry too much about that. I’ve found around 40-50 grams during training and a meal an hour or so before works well.
Please understand that is a rule of thumb. You have to start somewhere.
After 6 months, you should have a better understanding of your personal needs. That’s how coaches work.
There is no other way. Trial and error is the way to learn your body.
This whole thread demonstrates how opinions are so widespread that the poor poster doesn’t know which way to turn!
But I must admit I have NEVER seen a diet recommend nearly 400 CHO for a person with 23% BF. I certainly wouldn’t want to be paying for that type of ‘advice’!
So while I accept diet may be trial and error - but up to a point. Other stuff is just much more obvious.
I hope the plan works for the guy. And also hope his insulin sensitivity doesn’t get further fucked up on 400 CHO a day.
I agree with this. You gotta figure it out on your own.
The more I thought about it, the attached article is probably better for a lean bulking diet.
OP, you stated what your doing is working. Stick with it then… you’re likely gonna stall because you can’t cut calories, but diets are not meant to last forever. Re-adjust the plan next go around based on what you’ve learned this time. My 2 cents.
Never mind on the ‘good bulking’ diet. It’s just a bad diet… looks good in an article but practically doesn’t make much sense for the average guy.
I appreciate all the advice but I’ll be going back to my 2000 cals because that works for me. I was losing a consistent .2 % bf a day and still having most of my strength in the gym. I tried having more carbs yesterday to see how it went and after weighing myself this morning I’m up .2 % bf instead of down or at least the same. Yesterday was leg day on top of it. I might lower protein a tad and up healthy fats but as for the carbs, pre and post consumption only works best for me on a cut.
The problem is you haven’t been around long enough to understand that no two people are the same.
At that much carbs, yes, it would not work for me.
On the flip side, my wife only started loosing weight when we upped the carbs to 275. She trives on that stuff. She is the kind of person that has so much energy after a pancake breakfast while all I want to do is sleep.
It’s not bad info. It’s info you don’t understand yet.
I haven’t been around long enough? Huh? Does being around T-nation > 5 years make you more knowledge? I’m 40, have I not be on earth long enough to understand?
I think that was my point - no two people are the same. Diet is a personal, trial and error.
I think this is a really good idea. Learn from it. You’ll get more from than any forum.
Good luck man.
We are saying the same thing @AliveAgain36
I was talking to the other guy.
Yes, I know how long you have been here.
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sorry my man - totally misunderstood.
I don’t understand this interwebz thing sometimes. 
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So your metabolism is what lets your body know when you have energy and when you don’t. Your body will adjust to whatever you want it to do basically, so if you eat every 8 hrs your body will eventually adjust metabolism to slow and only use energy sources to get you to your next meal. You’ll feel like death unless you do absolutely nothing and then you might still feel terrible, SO, by only taking in protein with no carb or fat (easier energy transfers than protein) then your body tells your metabolism to slow down. From breakfast until your pre workout meal your metabolism is it’s slowest. I’m not a nutritionist or dietician by any means but I would recommend some healthy fats with breakfast since you don’t like carbs (look into ketosis and how hard it is on your kidneys) and then I’d maybe add a fruit with mid morning shake to spike insulin and let your body know it’s ok to be alive.
@d_b3 What does this have to do with his post. He’s getting close to 100G in Carbs in the diet he’s outlined. This is probably plenty to experiment with. This is not going to get him anywhere near keto levels - please don’t post stupid shit and freak someone out if it is not relevant. Moreover, nutrient timing is pretty much the last thing to dial in. And most people can vary quite dramatically. I eat pretty frequently but could easily go 24-36 hours without “feeling like death” - probably have great work-outs too after this time frame. I might be hungry as hell, but I’m not on death’s door step.
Yea I’m sticking with what’s been working. I am just adjusting mid morning to be 1 scoop of whey and serving of almonds instead 2 scoops of whey. The only other thing I might do is add banana to breakfast but we will see. I’ve had great results with what I’ve been doing. I was only looking for input for some slight mods.
I didn’t read all of the comments, I just read a few. But what he has in his (adjusted) meal plan is literally what I just described but like I said in my post…I’m not a nutritionist or a dietician…simply a fat kid voicing an opinion.