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[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
Yup and this covers 100% of cases…do people never lose their jobs? No catastrophic medical expenses that force someone out? Condoms breaking? Those damn irresponsible teenagers and their loose condom wearing morals.

Fuck I am pissed at myself for making it 13 pages through this thread with all the idiotic banter between the circle jerk crowd without blowing a gasket. Fuck you.

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Yes, people lose their jobs. Yes, medical expenses can be high. Yes, condoms can break(barring being infertile, only an idiot would have sex without acknowledging the possibility it can lead to pregnancy).

What about any of those situations makes anyone else responsible for it?

I understand you probably have a theocratic vision for this country, but this country was set up to avoid that.

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
Do you really believe, in your heart of hearts, that a public education in this country (through the high school level) involves indoctrination into some neo-liberal statist belief system? Hell even college for that matter. I have heard this nonsense spewed quite a bit in the past year, which not only makes it pretty obvious that you are not capable of having an original thought of your own, but that you are drinking some sort of kool-aid. that must be some good shit. Spewing about indoctrination while you are holding a big ass pitcher of the red shit…lol[/quote]

Yes.

If I’m drinking some sort of Kool-Aid, then it’s been made for a lot longer than a year because I heard socialist crap and knew that’s what it was from at least high school on(approximately a decade ago). It was always obvious to me that people own themselves, as I’m sure it was to you at one point.

*Edit: saying the pledge every morning=enough said regarding indoctrination

[quote]NickViar wrote:

Where does the cheap labor come from? Laborers are both a supply and demand. They supply labor and demand money. [/quote]

I can see you have your head firmly rapped around this one :slight_smile:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
The truth is an economic theory?[/quote]

Read that second book in the link and you’ll see how asinine “there is one truth” in economics statement is.

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Oh my , did I make a faux pas ?

offering book recommendations when asked for them is now indoctrination huh?

interesting

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:

[quote]CroatianRage wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
I was told I was a chump because only chumps make less than $20 an hour.

CroatianRage got a better outcome than me ha.[/quote]

Haha, that’s not how much I make, that’s how much is budgeted for living expenses. Remember how mad people got at McDonalds for offering a sample budget for their employees? What an odd thing to get mad at.[/quote]

Please post this fucking budget that you won’t shut the hell up about. Frankly, I think you are full of shit…[/quote]

Nope, and nope.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
The truth is an economic theory?[/quote]

Read that second book in the link and you’ll see how asinine “there is one truth” in economics statement is.

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Oh my , did I make a faux pas ?
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http://ace.mu.nu/archives/343095.php#343095

read this, You may, and I stress the word may here, begin to understand.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
The truth is an economic theory?[/quote]

Read that second book in the link and you’ll see how asinine “there is one truth” in economics statement is.

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Oh my , did I make a faux pas ?
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http://ace.mu.nu/archives/343095.php#343095

read this, You may, and I stress the word may here, begin to understand. [/quote]

While I think I understand and agree with your article , you do realize that you and I may not see the same things in the said article

My intention was never to discuss theory . I find that the Bean counters in this forum just love flipping the discussion in to a discussion about accounting ,then they are sure to win

I think accounting and economics have their place in discussing the economy of America . But a degree is not necessary to understand a good bit of what is going on.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

My intention was never to discuss theory . [/quote]

Then you should refrain from making foolish statements like the one that initiated this particular exchange.

Seeing as I haven’t brought up debits, credits, audit or taxation at all here, this is empty nonsense.

Good work

Lol, that is good. I’m glad you understand a basic knowledge of economics is needed to have an intelligent conversation about an economy.

[quote] But a degree is not necessary to understand a good bit of what is going on.
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Based on most of the posts you’ve made here, I’m starting to think that yes, one does in fact have to have some time of study on a topic in order to speak about it in any sort of intelligent way.

But… Carry on not making sense. Your volition.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Then you should refrain from making foolish statements like the one that initiated this particular exchange.
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Maybe you need to go back and read some of your posts :slight_smile: And if I read that article correct it said Economics is basically worthless because every one had a different point of view

Holy shit sounds like you and me

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Seeing as I haven’t brought up debits, credits, audit or taxation at all here, this is empty nonsense.

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Seeing the beginning of this exchange started with USMC (AN ACCOUNTANT I BELIEVE) either misquoted or I misspoke about economic theory . I will go back and pull up the post and see if I misspoke or USMC misquoted

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I am more in the line or Robert Reich [/quote]

“The real job creators are the vast middle class Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?¢?? whose spending drives the economy and creates jobs. But as the middle classÃ???Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??s share of total income continues to drop, it canÃ???Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??t spend as much as before. Nor can most Americans borrow as they did before the crash of 2008 Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?¢?? borrowing that temporarily masked their declining purchasing power.”

I think this is interesting, I’d like to hear thoughts on the above?
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what would you like ? my opinion ? More Robert Reich ? I personally agree with him . With out demand supply will shrivel or waste
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Anyone’s opinion really. [/quote]

I have read quite a bit from him and watched several videos . I know there are different brands of economics and there should not be . I know there are more economists that are republican but I reason that to be they are acting in their best interest . Kind of like they accuse the Scientist of doing with global warming :slight_smile:
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You think there should only be 1 economic theory? Which one?

How do you know more economist’s are republican than democrat?
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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

You think there should only be 1 economic theory? Which one?
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the truth

How do you know more economist’s are republican than democrat?
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I don’t I am speculating by the articles from published economists [/quote]

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
The truth is an economic theory?[/quote]

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So it was USMC that dragged in the term economic theory . I do however think there are many economists that are biased and that is what I was addressing . I think if they are putting out economic policy they should be as unbiased as possible

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
So it was USMC that dragged in the term economic theory . [/quote]

Yes, god forbid he try and use an actual term “theory”, I mean your use of “brand” was so much more academic.

I believe the term you are both looking for is model however.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

Lol, that is good. I’m glad you understand a basic knowledge of economics is needed to have an intelligent conversation about an economy.

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I have basic knowledge , you just want be the know all person . There is a lot more to our economy than bean counting

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I am more in the line or Robert Reich [/quote]

“The real job creators are the vast middle class Ã???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?¢?? whose spending drives the economy and creates jobs. But as the middle classÃ???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??s share of total income continues to drop, it canÃ???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??t spend as much as before. Nor can most Americans borrow as they did before the crash of 2008 Ã???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?¢?? borrowing that temporarily masked their declining purchasing power.”

I think this is interesting, I’d like to hear thoughts on the above?
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what would you like ? my opinion ? More Robert Reich ? I personally agree with him . With out demand supply will shrivel or waste
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Anyone’s opinion really. [/quote]

I have read quite a bit from him and watched several videos . I know there are different brands of economics and there should not be . I know there are more economists that are republican but I reason that to be they are acting in their best interest . Kind of like they accuse the Scientist of doing with global warming :slight_smile:
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You think there should only be 1 economic theory? Which one?

How do you know more economist’s are republican than democrat?
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You posted an article by an ECONOMIST, Robert Reich…But you didn’t want to talk about economic theory??

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

I am more in the line or Robert Reich [/quote]

“The real job creators are the vast middle class Ã???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?¢?? whose spending drives the economy and creates jobs. But as the middle classÃ???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??s share of total income continues to drop, it canÃ???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?¢??t spend as much as before. Nor can most Americans borrow as they did before the crash of 2008 Ã???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?¢?? borrowing that temporarily masked their declining purchasing power.”

I think this is interesting, I’d like to hear thoughts on the above?
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what would you like ? my opinion ? More Robert Reich ? I personally agree with him . With out demand supply will shrivel or waste
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Anyone’s opinion really. [/quote]

I have read quite a bit from him and watched several videos . I know there are different brands of economics and there should not be . I know there are more economists that are republican but I reason that to be they are acting in their best interest . Kind of like they accuse the Scientist of doing with global warming :slight_smile:
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You think there should only be 1 economic theory? Which one?

How do you know more economist’s are republican than democrat?
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ummm:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I have read quite a bit from him and watched several videos . I know there are different brands of economics and there should not be .[/quote]

So brands of economics doesn’t =/= economic theories (or models)? Really??

@ beans , I originally was impressed by your credentials but your bias quashed that