15 year olds doing 2g of test are one of the exact reasons aas are a CII scheduled drug in some countries. Waiting for the other shoe to drop by the feds that crack down and make them impossible to get like they were in the 90’s and 2000. Doctors won’t touch them with a ten ft pole without thousands of dollars in testing. Even then you get prescribed testgel or 100mg a week.
These drugs are in the same class as heroin and cocaine. Wouldn’t be surprised if law enforcement is monitoring message boards looking for this type of thing to justify their jobs. It’s usually a few people who fuck things up for everyone else. If I were a mod here I would ban underage discussion. If you are under the age of 24 you are asking for trouble unless you have a medical need and under a dr’s supervision. This is the general consensus and has been for years. I think most would agree this type of discussion just encourages the behavior. 15? Really? And front loading 2g of test?
Do everyone a favor and lie about your age at least. This website is not intended to entertain this behavior. Harm reduction and education for adults old enough to consider the use of aas is the intent, not 15 year old down hill athletes wanting advise on his 2g front load. You should be banned imo.
Not particularly, that’s like saying giving teenagers sex education will encourage them to go out and have sex. Giving advice on harm minimisation (or simply telling said kid to stop using gear) isn’t encouraging anything.
I think people forget just how stupid kids are. When I hear a 15y/O frontloading 2g, I’m not shocked in the slightest, I know plenty of kids/teenagers and young adults who do stupid or stupider things that are just on par.
Therefore why is it so shocking to think a 15y/O might be so callous and careless with PED’s? Or that a 15y/O would be willing to take them in the first place. Some kids do stupid, STUPID things.
I’ve done my fair share of stupid things myself, when I was a kid of about 11 (I shit you not) I built a taser out of one of those disposable film cameras just to shock myself in a bid to see how badly it’d hurt.
The other day I purposely stuck my hand in a mousetrap because I thought it was funny… I’m 18… And it was funny.
Actually I think I’m going to create a “stupid things you’ve done thread” in the off topic section lol.
When I was 15 I had just gotten locked up for possession of a firearm and distribution of cocaine.
Its not crazy in the least to see a teen doing this. I also disagree that he should be banned. Especially him someone who actually listened to The advice given. Without this forum he would have kept going. Now when It comes to kids under age coming on here and not listening and continuing to hurt themselves then yes I agree for. Liability reasons they should be removed. Im also not a mod or admin so that isn’t my job. I’m simply here to learn and help people. I have 100% faith that the admins and mods are more than capable of doing their jobs.
granted many of my acquaintances owned firearms (gifts from super right wing parents haha), one guy I was acquaintances with apparently had an unlicensed firearm, however I never saw it, but based on his previous antics I had no reason to not believe him.
It was just crazy because here in Aus most kids haven’t held or even shot a firearm… Unless they’re rural, then people own quite a few firearms actually.
Theres a lot of that in America especially in certain areas. I grew up in DC where it is not easy to own a gun yet everyone had one. Selling narcotics was easy money. Being able to make thousands a month when your 13,14, 15,16 seemed like a great idea. Unfortunately they justices system did not agree.
Brahh why stop with massive cycles? The best frog athletes like Benzema bang underage hookers and make 10 times the money of any fitness kid - you should probably start hanging around kindergartens = nuclear gainzzz FTW
Did 2 years in a juvenile sate joint then came home when I was 17 and was convicted of federal drug distribution conspiracy charges when I was 18 and went to a federal penitentiary for 5 years.
It was there that I decided to chnage my life for the better and now I’m living the dream (or as much a dream as possible in today’s America)
The one good thing that came from it was when I came home it was hard for me to get a good job so I decided to start my own company which has turned out amazing. Had my life not have gone like that I probably never would have made that decision.
These are the stupid things that are fun to do during those years. Plus you aren’t hurting anyone else but yourself nor are you destroying someone elses property. Would love to have more friends like these lol.
Glad to see you’re in a better place now man. Good on you bro
If we postulate that the compound is detectable for 5 half-lives, and that controls are not necessarily made during competition, they can.
You are not the only Frenchman in this forum, and the mission of the wada is not only to protect sports integrity but to protect the athletes from themselves too. Your case is so special…
It’s not that the French anti-doping agency would find this forum and seek you out but what if there was someone on this forum who wanted to cause you trouble and decided to report to them? Be smarter about the info you give out on line; not everyone is your friend here; some folks just want to see the world burn.
As a very large side comment, I don’t want to see the world burn per se. But I’d like to see the educational system in its current format crumble to dust… This current system doesn’t favour individuality in the slightest, prefers cut and paste responses in uniform fashion without valuing creativity, certain individuals who are very smart end up doing terribly if the current system doesn’t cater to them, as a matter of fact anyone who doesn’t cater towards the way school works nowadays is more or less fucked academically… and are thus brushed off as write offs due to poor academic performance (note my academic performance is fine).
Secondly i’d like to see politics change, the whole politicians spewing insults at each other, people trying to dig up dirt on one another from decades ago etc is BS, we should focus on reforming our society for the better as a whole rather than acting like dumbass high school kids
Thirdly, I’d like attitudes towards cannabis to change, I’m not a heavy or even regular user myself, however I think banning this drug is causing a lot more harm than it is good (supporting organised crime, clogging up jails and police/ govt funding/resources that could actually be used on something important) etc. I’m totally for anything that’ll cause cartels to take a hit.
Finally, consenting adults should have the right to do whatever they want TO THEMSELVES if it doesn’t harm anyone else in the process (cough anabolic steroids cough cough), though some adults will make stupid decisions, it’s about free will (or current lack thereof).
Well, we have quite a bit to unpack here now don’t we?
I’d like to start off saying that I understand your position on the education system considering your diagnosis (I struggled a bit in an attempt to find a phrase I was comfortable using here; please understand I mean no offense). It must be frustrating to learn in a system that clearly was not designed to meet your needs. The trouble is that this is what we get anytime we try to implement a ‘one size fits all’ type of delivery systems. It forces you to design for maximum suitability towards the AVERAGE; and that’s not necessarily a bad thing, it just means that the folks outside of the average, the outliers, have a less than optimal experience. It’s why all industrial type food services suck (e.g. cafeteria food, army food, etc). I’m not sure I have a solution other than to turnover the education system(s) to the free market and allow it to find a better solution.
From what I understand, though I haven’t consulted with legal counsel, there’s not. The forum allowing an exchange of ideas/advice between individuals isn’t the same as the forum implicitly agreeing with those ideas or T Nation representatives giving that advice.
If a 15-year old (or 55-year old) is told to do 5/3/1 and then herniates a disc, what’s the forum’s responsibility there? Probably a murky area, that’s intertwined with some kind of ethical debate regarding AAS, but still. Throw in the international factor and the “are people really who they say they are online”-issue and things get more and more muddy.
Bottom line is, this thread has run its course. As I initially stated, I was hesitant to post it in the first place, but after exchanging e-mails wth @anabolic15yearold, I decided it was best for him to hear more people telling him the same thing… which is what happened and it appears to have turned out for the best, relatively speaking.
What I will say, though, is that I expect to see @anabolic15yearoldstart a thread any minute now to get input on his training and nutrition plans.
I do not expect to see him commenting in any other threads in Pharma, letalone trying to give advice in this section going forward. That ain’t happening, bud.
