disgusting
[quote]dantheman wrote:
how can you trust a news source that has such a blatant tilt towards the seemingly fascist neo-conservative movement, that even true republicans will never defend…
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I don’t watch the news for hours a day or anything, but from what I have seen every channel can tilt either liberal or conservative. Fox may be more obviously conservative, but then again considering their competition, they may simply be “just conservative enough”. Plus FOX has a high ratio of hot babes to O’Reilly’s.
“Doesn’t take himself too seriously” ??? I hope you’re joking here - the Colbert show is completely dedicated to bashing anything even remotely conservative. The show is just as liberally biased as Stewart’s show, if not worse. The fact that you can’t tell really is worrisome.
And back to FOX being an “unreliable” news source, please take your pick:
http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=65325
http://news.propeller.com/story/2007/10/02/10-year-old-girl-gives-birth-in-belgium
I suppose I should assume these are all false reports because they are not backed up by documentation provided by Dan Rather.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
meangenes wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
meangenes wrote:
What is belief again? I mean, evolution might be considered a belief, no?
To believe in something, as opposed to knowing, is to vaguely accept as fact something about which you have insufficient evidence. Since a religious experience can’t be proved, in the same way that you could prove a physical law (by testing it), the believer accepts a subjective experience as proof TO HIM.
In other words, a religious claim can’t be made ‘falsifiable’, in the jargon.
Do you believe you are alive?
According to Descartes ‘I am’. ;D
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Tsk, tsk, tsk, according to Descartes he is.
You might or might not be.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Moral laws come straight out of the various world religions. It is fear of divine retribution that societies use to control their populations. The ‘common sense’ and ‘laws’ that you adopt have roots in a religion. This is common history which you should know.[/quote]
I find it incredibly sad that you think so many would behave in a manner deserving of a sentence to Hell, if there was not the threat of that Hell. You really would, or you really think that many people, would be terrible people if they weren’t afraid of the lake of lava/whatever else they believe in?
Actually, come to think of it, you might be right about the majority of people acting in that manner, which is more disturbing to me than the 10 year old birth & her 13 year old baby daddy. (Seriously…10 years old, what the fuck?!)
Really? I’ve never had a desire to believe in something, I’ve had a desire to KNOW things, but just take a leap of faith and say jinx, not really. Maybe people seem to have this inborn desire, because from birth they have religion crammed down their throats by their parents?
[quote]sdspeedracer wrote:
Yeah, the 21 days of hormones are shaped like little Barney Rubbles and the 7 blank days are Freds.
Don’t miss your Barney or you’ll be held out of your play dates.[/quote]
Nice. This brough a smile to my face.
[quote]MrRezister wrote:
dantheman wrote:
how can you trust a news source that has such a blatant tilt towards the seemingly fascist neo-conservative movement, that even true republicans will never defend…
I don’t watch the news for hours a day or anything, but from what I have seen every channel can tilt either liberal or conservative. Fox may be more obviously conservative, but then again considering their competition, they may simply be “just conservative enough”. Plus FOX has a high ratio of hot babes to O’Reilly’s.
hell, if i wanted to listen to WASP banter about how awesome W is, I will watch Colbert…at least he doesn’t take himself too seriously…
“Doesn’t take himself too seriously” ??? I hope you’re joking here - the Colbert show is completely dedicated to bashing anything even remotely conservative. The show is just as liberally biased as Stewart’s show, if not worse. The fact that you can’t tell really is worrisome.
And back to FOX being an “unreliable” news source, please take your pick:
http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=65325
http://news.propeller.com/story/2007/10/02/10-year-old-girl-gives-birth-in-belgium
I suppose I should assume these are all false reports because they are not backed up by documentation provided by Dan Rather.
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who said i denied that this story was correct? I just have a large problem with fox news in general… had nothing to do with the story, hence the reason i apologized for jacking the thread.
secondly, i am very aware of the satirical value of colbert, yet if you were a devout watcher of either of those shows they do not simply poke at ultra conservatives but mock all of politics in general.
seriously, read, think and then react…don’t post bullshit again, someone make this a new thread if you want to keep talking about it
uhhh…it’s the second Christ!
[quote]Magnate wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Moral laws come straight out of the various world religions. It is fear of divine retribution that societies use to control their populations. The ‘common sense’ and ‘laws’ that you adopt have roots in a religion. This is common history which you should know.
I find it incredibly sad that you think so many would behave in a manner deserving of a sentence to Hell, if there was not the threat of that Hell. You really would, or you really think that many people, would be terrible people if they weren’t afraid of the lake of lava/whatever else they believe in?
Actually, come to think of it, you might be right about the majority of people acting in that manner, which is more disturbing to me than the 10 year old birth & her 13 year old baby daddy. (Seriously…10 years old, what the fuck?!)
BTW: Satanism is a consequence of atheism. Humans have an inborn desire to believe in SOMETHING.
Really? I’ve never had a desire to believe in something, I’ve had a desire to KNOW things, but just take a leap of faith and say jinx, not really. Maybe people seem to have this inborn desire, because from birth they have religion crammed down their throats by their parents? [/quote]
Just when you thought this thread couldn’t go more off topic…
There are some theories bouncing around that humans have certain behavioral traits that DO predispose them to religious belief.
We tend to think dualistically, assign purpose to everything and anthropomorphic characteristics to inanimate objects. I thought Paul Bloom’s articles on the issue were pretty interesting and Dawkins gives a pretty good summary in his book “The God Delusion”.
[quote]A-Dizz wrote:
8 year olds, Dude.
-dizzle[/quote]
Bravo!
Wreckless is banging 9 year olds? Go figure, He must know something we don’t being the enlighten one and all. Congrats on fatherhood, don’t be a deadbeat dad…
[quote]orion wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
meangenes wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
meangenes wrote:
What is belief again? I mean, evolution might be considered a belief, no?
To believe in something, as opposed to knowing, is to vaguely accept as fact something about which you have insufficient evidence. Since a religious experience can’t be proved, in the same way that you could prove a physical law (by testing it), the believer accepts a subjective experience as proof TO HIM.
In other words, a religious claim can’t be made ‘falsifiable’, in the jargon.
Do you believe you are alive?
According to Descartes ‘I am’. ;D
Tsk, tsk, tsk, according to Descartes he is.
You might or might not be.
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“I am, therefore I’ll think.” — Ayn Rand
[quote]dantheman wrote:
hell, if i wanted to listen to WASP banter about how awesome W is, I will watch Colbert…at least he doesn’t take himself too seriously…[/quote]
He’s a satirist. He usually spins the “truth” in such a way that he is comes out on the side of being right but for the wrong reason or being wrong but for the right reason. He subverts the truth masterfully.
whats shocking is that 10 years is not even the youngest someone has had a child
[quote]Kliplemet wrote:
Kliplemet wrote:
In Congo religion is the major cause of child prostitution. You see, they claim that their five year old children have gone crazy and killed their parents or grand parents or something crazy like that , which may or may not be true, and then they say that the children are child wizards and they kick them out into the streets.
The young 5-10 year old boys then form gangs of thieves and drink beer and smoke drugs all day to get courage to find money so they say and in th enight they take pills to stay awake so that they don’t get anally raped in their sleeps. the 5-10 year old girls sell their bodies for 3-5 bucks a pop and they say that after 3 men their belly starts aching. among their clients are the 5-10 year old boys they say
TRUE STORY i saw a documentary about this and the nasty details were direved from direct interviews with the children
wow that was really enlightening
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Worst T-Nation Troll, more annoying then Balbos. Never fails to make me feel dumber. Three more of his sort and I’m outta here.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Europeans have basically rejected religion. Since, for most folks, religion is their source of morality, they see their country become like that, a degenerate pool of animals all trying to fuck anything that moves, including little children.
We have some of that here with that shitbag that filmed himself getting off on a 3 year old in Las Vegas. No religion, no morality, the society descends into Satanism.
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And the 10year old baby makers in the secular Israel are… where exactly? How about in the secular Iranian population? Secular America?
I’m thinking this had something to so with poverty, and not religion. Maybe they need more sex education, the parents I mean.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
A-Dizz wrote:
8 year olds, Dude.
-dizzle
Bravo![/quote]
Encore!
Behold! Jesus!
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
dantheman wrote:
hell, if i wanted to listen to WASP banter about how awesome W is, I will watch Colbert…at least he doesn’t take himself too seriously…
He’s a satirist. He usually spins the “truth” in such a way that he is comes out on the side of being right but for the wrong reason or being wrong but for the right reason. He subverts the truth masterfully.[/quote]
i said that already you twat.
pay attention.