10 Strong Men vs African Lioness

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

  • Strength beyond 10 men.
    [/quote]
    rofl, no

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Animal muscle is much more adaptive to fighting, speed and hitting.
[/quote]
No actually it isn’t. Humans are animals too. Muscle is muscle. Any differences in pound for pound strength are mostly neurological in nature, but for the most part the only animals stronger than humans are ones bigger than humans. More cross sectional muscle tissue area = more strength. There is nothing magical about other animals’ muscle.

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Then consider the human body. We are not as fast, strong or capable of fighting an animal even weighing 100lbs if it latches onto an artery or our legs/arms.
[/quote]
Speak for yourself weakling. Name me a 100lb animal that a strong 200lb male couldn’t snap like a twig.

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
If anybody considers themselves capable of taking on a predator then they need to consider this option. Could you take on Mike Tyson in his prime if he found out you raped and murdered his family?
[/quote]
I sure as shit could if I had 9 other dudes with me lol.

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Then how the hell do you think you can kill a lioness in its prime.[/quote]
With more people. 2000+lbs of person vs 330lbs or so of lioness (400lbs is well above average). At some point you must obey the laws of physics. If I placed a 2000lb car on top of a lioness, would it pounce up, hurling the car into the air, and escape? Or would it be fucked 6 ways from Sunday?[/quote]

And this is why this site is a fucking joke.

“ROFL NO”

Ok then Mr Universe (lol), go and fight a tiger after it kills your family. This happens to bush men and families in Africa a lot. it has happened over time and what happened? 100+ armed crowds go after the maneater, not 10 bare-handed retards who think their strength can match a lion.

Please tell me how 10 steve Irwins can tackle a 2000lb croc, I bet you’ll somehow imagine some scenario where just a thumb up its arse would do.

Lion>mankind. I DGAF what some keyboard jockeys say, half of you cannot even deadlift 500lbs let alone take on a lion that can move upwards of 30mph. lol America

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[quote]harrypotter wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

  • Strength beyond 10 men.
    [/quote]
    rofl, no

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Animal muscle is much more adaptive to fighting, speed and hitting.
[/quote]
No actually it isn’t. Humans are animals too. Muscle is muscle. Any differences in pound for pound strength are mostly neurological in nature, but for the most part the only animals stronger than humans are ones bigger than humans. More cross sectional muscle tissue area = more strength. There is nothing magical about other animals’ muscle.

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Then consider the human body. We are not as fast, strong or capable of fighting an animal even weighing 100lbs if it latches onto an artery or our legs/arms.
[/quote]
Speak for yourself weakling. Name me a 100lb animal that a strong 200lb male couldn’t snap like a twig.

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
If anybody considers themselves capable of taking on a predator then they need to consider this option. Could you take on Mike Tyson in his prime if he found out you raped and murdered his family?
[/quote]
I sure as shit could if I had 9 other dudes with me lol.

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Then how the hell do you think you can kill a lioness in its prime.[/quote]
With more people. 2000+lbs of person vs 330lbs or so of lioness (400lbs is well above average). At some point you must obey the laws of physics. If I placed a 2000lb car on top of a lioness, would it pounce up, hurling the car into the air, and escape? Or would it be fucked 6 ways from Sunday?[/quote]

And this is why this site is a fucking joke.

“ROFL NO”

Ok then Mr Universe (lol), go and fight a tiger after it kills your family. This happens to bush men and families in Africa a lot. it has happened over time and what happened? 100+ armed crowds go after the maneater, not 10 bare-handed retards who think their strength can match a lion.

Please tell me how 10 steve Irwins can tackle a 2000lb croc, I bet you’ll somehow imagine some scenario where just a thumb up its arse would do.

Lion>mankind. I DGAF what some keyboard jockeys say, half of you cannot even deadlift 500lbs let alone take on a lion that can move upwards of 30mph. lol America[/quote]
lol

WAIT A MINUTE…I didn’t know it was 10 Strong Americans ok, that changes things

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

  • Strength beyond 10 men.
    [/quote]
    rofl, no

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Animal muscle is much more adaptive to fighting, speed and hitting.
[/quote]
No actually it isn’t. Humans are animals too. Muscle is muscle. Any differences in pound for pound strength are mostly neurological in nature, but for the most part the only animals stronger than humans are ones bigger than humans. More cross sectional muscle tissue area = more strength. There is nothing magical about other animals’ muscle.

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Then consider the human body. We are not as fast, strong or capable of fighting an animal even weighing 100lbs if it latches onto an artery or our legs/arms.
[/quote]
Speak for yourself weakling. Name me a 100lb animal that a strong 200lb male couldn’t snap like a twig.

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
If anybody considers themselves capable of taking on a predator then they need to consider this option. Could you take on Mike Tyson in his prime if he found out you raped and murdered his family?
[/quote]
I sure as shit could if I had 9 other dudes with me lol.

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Then how the hell do you think you can kill a lioness in its prime.[/quote]
With more people. 2000+lbs of person vs 330lbs or so of lioness (400lbs is well above average). At some point you must obey the laws of physics. If I placed a 2000lb car on top of a lioness, would it pounce up, hurling the car into the air, and escape? Or would it be fucked 6 ways from Sunday?[/quote]

And this is why this site is a fucking joke.

“ROFL NO”

Ok then Mr Universe (lol), go and fight a tiger after it kills your family. This happens to bush men and families in Africa a lot. it has happened over time and what happened? 100+ armed crowds go after the maneater, not 10 bare-handed retards who think their strength can match a lion.

Please tell me how 10 steve Irwins can tackle a 2000lb croc, I bet you’ll somehow imagine some scenario where just a thumb up its arse would do.

Lion>mankind. I DGAF what some keyboard jockeys say, half of you cannot even deadlift 500lbs let alone take on a lion that can move upwards of 30mph. lol America[/quote]

AMERICA…WE ONLY NEED 1 GUY.

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Agreed lol, that was dumb.

Little weak constantly bullied kids on youtube tend to fantasize about how much stronger animals are so they feel they have a mental image of “animal backup” when they get their lunch money stolen by big strong bullies on a daily basis.

Their thought process is likely this:
“Oh who cares about your 500 pound deadlift and big muscles you lummox, and so what if I am a wimpy kid who struggles to pull 2 plates and change,… remember that an african lioness is waaaaay stronger than you and can kill you without blinking. SO YOU LOSE. ANIMAL POWER. LOL LOL”

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

  • Strength beyond 10 men.[/quote]
    rofl, no
    [/quote][b]

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
go and fight a tiger after it kills your family. This happens to bush men and families in Africa a lot. it has happened over time and what happened? 100+ armed crowds go after the maneater, not 10 bare-handed retards who think their strength can match a lion.
[/quote]
lol, you’re just trolling now like you always do. Please tell me you see the glaring fallacy in your argument. Just because 10 unarmed men could kill a lion doesn’t mean that’s what you’d take if given a choice haha. Yet again, I could take out Mike Tyson with 10 unarmed dudes, but if I had the option of taking 30 dudes with machine guns, I’d do that lol.

How can you be so obtuse?

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
go and fight a tiger after it kills your family. This happens to bush men and families in Africa a lot. it has happened over time and what happened? 100+ armed crowds go after the maneater, not 10 bare-handed retards who think their strength can match a lion.
[/quote]
lol, you’re just trolling now like you always do. Please tell me you see the glaring fallacy in your argument. Just because 10 unarmed men could kill a lion doesn’t mean that’s what you’d take if given a choice haha. Yet again, I could take out Mike Tyson with 10 unarmed dudes, but if I had the option of taking 30 dudes with machine guns, I’d do that lol.

How can you be so obtuse?[/quote]

Stop it

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
go and fight a tiger after it kills your family. This happens to bush men and families in Africa a lot. it has happened over time and what happened? 100+ armed crowds go after the maneater, not 10 bare-handed retards who think their strength can match a lion.
[/quote]
lol, you’re just trolling now like you always do. Please tell me you see the glaring fallacy in your argument. Just because 10 unarmed men could kill a lion doesn’t mean that’s what you’d take if given a choice haha. Yet again, I could take out Mike Tyson with 10 unarmed dudes, but if I had the option of taking 30 dudes with machine guns, I’d do that lol.

How can you be so obtuse?[/quote]
Thank you for pointing out fallacies of convergence, Chris.

[quote]four60 wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

  • Strength beyond 10 men.
    [/quote]
    rofl, no

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Animal muscle is much more adaptive to fighting, speed and hitting.
[/quote]
No actually it isn’t. Humans are animals too. Muscle is muscle. Any differences in pound for pound strength are mostly neurological in nature, but for the most part the only animals stronger than humans are ones bigger than humans. More cross sectional muscle tissue area = more strength. There is nothing magical about other animals’ muscle.

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Then consider the human body. We are not as fast, strong or capable of fighting an animal even weighing 100lbs if it latches onto an artery or our legs/arms.
[/quote]
Speak for yourself weakling. Name me a 100lb animal that a strong 200lb male couldn’t snap like a twig.

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
If anybody considers themselves capable of taking on a predator then they need to consider this option. Could you take on Mike Tyson in his prime if he found out you raped and murdered his family?
[/quote]
I sure as shit could if I had 9 other dudes with me lol.

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Then how the hell do you think you can kill a lioness in its prime.[/quote]
With more people. 2000+lbs of person vs 330lbs or so of lioness (400lbs is well above average). At some point you must obey the laws of physics. If I placed a 2000lb car on top of a lioness, would it pounce up, hurling the car into the air, and escape? Or would it be fucked 6 ways from Sunday?[/quote]

And this is why this site is a fucking joke.

“ROFL NO”

Ok then Mr Universe (lol), go and fight a tiger after it kills your family. This happens to bush men and families in Africa a lot. it has happened over time and what happened? 100+ armed crowds go after the maneater, not 10 bare-handed retards who think their strength can match a lion.

Please tell me how 10 steve Irwins can tackle a 2000lb croc, I bet you’ll somehow imagine some scenario where just a thumb up its arse would do.

Lion>mankind. I DGAF what some keyboard jockeys say, half of you cannot even deadlift 500lbs let alone take on a lion that can move upwards of 30mph. lol America[/quote]

AMERICA…WE ONLY NEED 1 GUY.
[/quote]
Thank you for that ballin’ display.

I’ll leave this here

[quote]mbdix wrote:
I’ll leave this here
Egyptian Death Match: Man vs. Lion - Video - TIME.com [/quote]
I really don’t like that guy.

Never mind. I was expecting someone else.

[quote]csulli wrote:

No actually it isn’t. Humans are animals too. Muscle is muscle. Any differences in pound for pound strength are mostly neurological in nature, but for the most part the only animals stronger than humans are ones bigger than humans. More cross sectional muscle tissue area = more strength. There is nothing magical about other animals’ muscle.
[/quote]

Nope.

A chimpanzees muscle fibres are capable of comtracting with 5 times the force of yours.

You are of course free to look this up.

Plus, his tendons are attached differently to his joints, giving him superior pulling power and whatnot…

Could rip your arm off, just saying…

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]harrypotter wrote:

  • Strength beyond 10 men.
    [/quote]
    rofl, no

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Animal muscle is much more adaptive to fighting, speed and hitting.
[/quote]
No actually it isn’t. Humans are animals too. Muscle is muscle. Any differences in pound for pound strength are mostly neurological in nature, but for the most part the only animals stronger than humans are ones bigger than humans. More cross sectional muscle tissue area = more strength. There is nothing magical about other animals’ muscle.

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Then consider the human body. We are not as fast, strong or capable of fighting an animal even weighing 100lbs if it latches onto an artery or our legs/arms.
[/quote]
Speak for yourself weakling. Name me a 100lb animal that a strong 200lb male couldn’t snap like a twig.

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
If anybody considers themselves capable of taking on a predator then they need to consider this option. Could you take on Mike Tyson in his prime if he found out you raped and murdered his family?
[/quote]
I sure as shit could if I had 9 other dudes with me lol.

[quote]harrypotter wrote:
Then how the hell do you think you can kill a lioness in its prime.[/quote]
With more people. 2000+lbs of person vs 330lbs or so of lioness (400lbs is well above average). At some point you must obey the laws of physics. If I placed a 2000lb car on top of a lioness, would it pounce up, hurling the car into the air, and escape? Or would it be fucked 6 ways from Sunday?[/quote]

And this is why this site is a fucking joke.

“ROFL NO”

Ok then Mr Universe (lol), go and fight a tiger after it kills your family. This happens to bush men and families in Africa a lot. it has happened over time and what happened? 100+ armed crowds go after the maneater, not 10 bare-handed retards who think their strength can match a lion.

Please tell me how 10 steve Irwins can tackle a 2000lb croc, I bet you’ll somehow imagine some scenario where just a thumb up its arse would do.

Lion>mankind. I DGAF what some keyboard jockeys say, half of you cannot even deadlift 500lbs let alone take on a lion that can move upwards of 30mph. lol America[/quote]

Would kill with firearm.

Would have nice rug.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

No actually it isn’t. Humans are animals too. Muscle is muscle. Any differences in pound for pound strength are mostly neurological in nature, but for the most part the only animals stronger than humans are ones bigger than humans. More cross sectional muscle tissue area = more strength. There is nothing magical about other animals’ muscle.
[/quote]

Nope.

A chimpanzees muscle fibres are capable of comtracting with 5 times the force of yours.

You are of course free to look this up.

Plus, his tendons are attached differently to his joints, giving him superior pulling power and whatnot…

Could rip your arm off, just saying…[/quote]
Contractile proteins and longer attachments.

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

No actually it isn’t. Humans are animals too. Muscle is muscle. Any differences in pound for pound strength are mostly neurological in nature, but for the most part the only animals stronger than humans are ones bigger than humans. More cross sectional muscle tissue area = more strength. There is nothing magical about other animals’ muscle.
[/quote]

Nope.

A chimpanzees muscle fibres are capable of comtracting with 5 times the force of yours.

You are of course free to look this up.

Plus, his tendons are attached differently to his joints, giving him superior pulling power and whatnot…

Could rip your arm off, just saying…[/quote]
Contractile proteins and longer attachments.[/quote]

Well, a female chimpanzee deadlifted around 1000lbs or so with one arm kind because she was bored.

Yeah, muscle fibers are muscle fibers, but my fibers wont do that.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

No actually it isn’t. Humans are animals too. Muscle is muscle. Any differences in pound for pound strength are mostly neurological in nature, but for the most part the only animals stronger than humans are ones bigger than humans. More cross sectional muscle tissue area = more strength. There is nothing magical about other animals’ muscle.
[/quote]

Nope.

A chimpanzees muscle fibres are capable of comtracting with 5 times the force of yours.

You are of course free to look this up.

Plus, his tendons are attached differently to his joints, giving him superior pulling power and whatnot…

Could rip your arm off, just saying…[/quote]
Contractile proteins and longer attachments.[/quote]

Well, a female chimpanzee deadlifted around 1000lbs or so with one arm kind because she was bored.

Yeah, muscle fibers are muscle fibers, but my fibers wont do that.[/quote]
I have looked it up, probably a ton more than you (you know how I am lol). The chimp most certainly did not deadlift 1000lbs with one arm. The studies on chimp strength relative to humans are riddled with issues; I won’t even get into it.

The bottom line is, no there still isn’t much difference in the tissue itself. Muscle attachment is part of the story, but as I said before, the vast majority of whatever pound for pound discrepancy exists there (which is wildly overstated most of the time btw) is neurological in nature. Look at the difference in what they call “grey matter” around the spine between humans and apes. THERE is your major variable.

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

No actually it isn’t. Humans are animals too. Muscle is muscle. Any differences in pound for pound strength are mostly neurological in nature, but for the most part the only animals stronger than humans are ones bigger than humans. More cross sectional muscle tissue area = more strength. There is nothing magical about other animals’ muscle.
[/quote]

Nope.

A chimpanzees muscle fibres are capable of comtracting with 5 times the force of yours.

You are of course free to look this up.

Plus, his tendons are attached differently to his joints, giving him superior pulling power and whatnot…

Could rip your arm off, just saying…[/quote]
Contractile proteins and longer attachments.[/quote]

Well, a female chimpanzee deadlifted around 1000lbs or so with one arm kind because she was bored.

Yeah, muscle fibers are muscle fibers, but my fibers wont do that.[/quote]
I have looked it up, probably a ton more than you (you know how I am lol). The chimp most certainly did not deadlift 1000lbs with one arm. The studies on chimp strength relative to humans are riddled with issues; I won’t even get into it.

The bottom line is, no there still isn’t much difference in the tissue itself. Muscle attachment is part of the story, but as I said before, the vast majority of whatever pound for pound discrepancy exists there (which is wildly overstated most of the time btw) is neurological in nature. Look at the difference in what they call “grey matter” around the spine between humans and apes. THERE is your major variable.[/quote]
Yes. Muscle tissue itself adapts like any other.


Hasn’t a similar experiment been tried in the past?

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I don’t mean to come off as cocky, but in my honest opinion, a lioness really doesn’t have TOO much of an advantage on somebody like me. I load stones frequently, and bare skin at that. This really shreds up my forearms and sometimes I’m left to clean up with paint thinner because no WD40 and it really burns. That really makes me acclimated to cuts and stuff, so the claws won’t be too much of an issue. Also, since I can yoke so much more weight than the lioness even weighs, what’s a substantially larger, more virile (albeit female), and ferocious cat going to do if I can simply stand up in its attempt to eviscerate me and slam her to the ground? My plan would be to slam her, incapacitating her, and then get on my knees and choke her with my hands pushing with all of my upper ab strength, since I do alot of planks etc. Also, my grip is probably enough to severe the trachea.

If you guys want a formidable challenge to inquire about, perhaps include a grizzly bear into the challenge.

O WAIT…

[quote]strongmanvinny wrote:
I don’t mean to come off as cocky, but in my honest opinion, a lioness really doesn’t have TOO much of an advantage on somebody like me. I load stones frequently, and bare skin at that. This really shreds up my forearms and sometimes I’m left to clean up with paint thinner because no WD40 and it really burns. That really makes me acclimated to cuts and stuff, so the claws won’t be too much of an issue. Also, since I can yoke so much more weight than the lioness even weighs, what’s a substantially larger, more virile (albeit female), and ferocious cat going to do if I can simply stand up in its attempt to eviscerate me and slam her to the ground? My plan would be to slam her, incapacitating her, and then get on my knees and choke her with my hands pushing with all of my upper ab strength, since I do alot of planks etc. Also, my grip is probably enough to severe the trachea.

If you guys want a formidable challenge to inquire about, perhaps include a grizzly bear into the challenge.

O WAIT…[/quote]

‘Cocky’ isn’t what I would have used to describe this post, so you’re good there.