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In a fight to the death, would you back a group of say 10 physically strong human men vs 1 african lioness. Assuming this fight took place in an empty room and the men had no weapons. I personally think this would be an easy win, in favor of the lioness. No matter how strong humans are, physically, we are weak compared to other apex predators. In my opinion, lioness wins easy.
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All these “men against animals but no weapons” scenarios are fucking stupid.
Man evolved — hands, walking upright, large brain — to utilize weapons and tools.
10 men with pointy sticks of decent length would be eating lion and wearing a lion skin.
To deny humans weapons and tools is like — OK, I’m going to have a fight between a bear and a shark. On land.[/quote]
Thats why the humans get to have strength in numbers.[/quote]
You dont know much about hunting do you?
Packs of humans would hunt with spears, rocks and tactics to bring down much bigger and stronger prey.
Take a human vs human fight. How many broken/fractured bones and other injuries will be sustained in a no-holds barred fight to near death?
Now put a lioness in the mix vs 10 men and knowing full well dogs below 200lbs can kill humans or cause serious injury, you’re onto a loser.
Lioness has claws and biting power, a punch from a human isn’t going to do much.[/quote]
Why are we even talking about hunting? And why would a human try to punch a lion. This is about (according to the OP) 10 STRONG men against a Lioness. This is a fight so both parties are not given options.
Fight or Die.
Humans have teeth and the ability to adapt to danger very fast. 10 strong men with no Options is a Force one lion could not overcome[/quote]
Why are you beyond stupid? I’ve known stupid posts on here but this is I hope not serious.
Why would a human punch a lion? Ummm…because we dont have claws or canine teeth that can rip through animal hide? Maybe that sort of thing? if we were so goddam effective with our hands, legs and teeth we would never have invented weapons. DUUURRRRRP!
Humans have the ability to adapt to danger pretty fast? Oh so how fast do you think a group of “strong” men would adapt when they see the first two guys go down like sacks of shit in the opening seconds?
DEEEERPY DERP!
Now you might say the men have nothing to lose and are killers. Ok then lets put the lion in the same situation, a blood craze as its known. Where this ion will do nothing but attack till everything is dead or dying.
There is a reason why lions are able to make humans run in fear, they tend to have mouths the size of our heads and bite pressure to crush our skulls. Tell me Mr fantastic, what human do you know can crush an average mans skull?
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For a guy who says DEEEERPY you are really free with the word stupid.
Any way.
When I said “punch” I was talking about how everyone in this thread seems to believe (including you) that a boxing match is a humans only option. Yes we have invented and adapted to weapons because we found it was an easier path to our goal. You seem to have already sent the other 9 guys to curl up in a corner and wait for a turn at the teeth/claws of the lioness. I just do not see it that way.
Lions are not the only things that make men run in fear. Shit man I’ve seen big guys hall ass at the site of toy dogs, rats, mice, roaches, long term relationships. It is a reaction with an option. Take away a mans options and times that to ten guys against 1 lioness and you seem to believe that 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, die and the others wait for 6, 7, 8, 9 and the last guy just places himself into her mouth.
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Still in the stupid crowd I see. Derpy is a word that amuses me because it explains perfectly your attitude in such matters as this. This is a pathetic topic but I enjoy stupidity on the internet.
Here we go.
I never said man 1-10 will take it in turns but you’re also forgetting we are not dealing with a man here, we are dealing with an Apex predator.
- Sharp teeth
- Sharp claws capable of gutting
- Strength beyond 10 men. Take the worlds strongest man as a guy who is capable of being 3 times stronger than the average strong male. He wouldn’t stand a chance
Animal muscle is much more adaptive to fighting, speed and hitting. A small chimp can rip your face off before you even know WTF was going on and you’re telling me something 4-5 times a chimps weight and much much stronger than a chimp is incapable of massacring the first 5 men in front of it?
Then consider the human body. We are not as fast, strong or capable of fighting an animal even weighing 100lbs if it latches onto an artery or our legs/arms. Lionesses weigh in excess of 400lbs. Can you bench press 400lbs? Thats the average BW of a lioness.
Can you swing 400lbs like a baseball bat?
A lioness can swing a 250lbs man no problem, they hunt animals twice our size with ease.
By your logic people could stand toe to toe with brown bears who are much slower than a lion. Yeah…right.
If anybody considers themselves capable of taking on a predator then they need to consider this option. Could you take on Mike Tyson in his prime if he found out you raped and murdered his family?
No?
Then how the hell do you think you can kill a lioness in its prime.[/quote]
You beat A prime Tyson the same way you kill a prime Lioness. With overwhelming force of numbers and strength.
I understand the power of a lion as well as the lion huntress. I also get nothing I say will convince you otherwise. But this is a numbers game and no matter how god like fierce the lioness is it’s not unbeatable. A large pack of Dogs will kill it just a matter of numbers. I will even go lower a large number of teenage girls would kill it also just a matter of numbers Lets pick 50 teens would kill a lion. So since it’s only a matter of how many will it take I choose 10 if the category is how many Strong Men would it take. Maybe you would want more 15, 20, 25, 30?
Either way we are not debating on if the lion would die. Just how many strong men would it take. I say 10 you say more.