You’ll be squatting 200 for 5 at my age, no doubt.
Lbs?
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Mate, by the time you reach my age there will be no more lbs.
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Grams.
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Work for today:
Press:
5 x 40kg
5 x 50kg
3 x 60kg
1 x 65kg
0 x 70kg
0 x 70kg
2 x 60kg
1 x 65kg
1 x 70kg
Dips: some
Pull ups: some
Hanging Leg raises: some
Notes:
- Thought today would be a good day to evaluate progress on Press since I’m unlikely to be this well rested again for the foreseeable, and it’s a good chance to evaluate my years progress so far. Everything was going smooth (apart from a lot of neck pain I couldn’t shake off) and I was gearing up for a decent PR until I hit 70kg and struggled big time. In conclusion, it appears I haven’t got any stronger at Press in about half a year, and have probably got weaker, because the rep I finally got 70kg on was pretty high on the simo scale. Pretty irritated by that, back to the drawing board I think. Am also reconsidering my squat program, because I’m honestly dreading it and work and life stress don’t look to be easing soon, so whether I can recover or not is very doubtful. Something to think on.
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Press is a twat, I’ve decided to shun it for a while. I’m just going to do db and machine pressing, get some size on shoulders and Triceps and revisit it then.
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You speak the truth
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What’s this, miss the lift, shoot up some roids, hit it again and you get it?
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Mostly accepted it was going to hurt and got angry enough to do it.
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Mate, 70 kilo is a heavy press, you should feel good about that.
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I was 9 months ago when I first did it. Kinda disappointed how difficult it was today
Definitely no argument there, but I do have to ask, what are you doing to work on your press besides pressing? I scrolled back over the last month or so and didn’t see any other pressing besides a little benching, and no direct shoulder work besides some rear delt raises. You might want to try some accessory work that directly hits the movement, and other work that works the same muscles. I’m no expert by any means, but I’ve found that my press responds to some variety. Right now I’m just doing press, bench, dips and 1 arm DB presses, but deadlifts, power cleans and zercher squats also indirectly really strengthen your shoulders. In the past I’ve also had success with log presses when I had access to a log, and handstand pushups that you can do anywhere. When the same thing isn’t working, it’s time to change things up! (or, just try one one of the several press-specific programs here on the main site).
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I feel that with the nature of the press, the only way you are ultimately going to increase your 1RM is to spend time actually lifting around or at your 1RM. Sub max lifting will get you ready for it, but it will not magically translate into an improved max.
Also, do push presses. We’ve been over this.
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No arguments there.
Not a lot, just lots of pressing.
I’m trying to figure out a way to do both push presses and presses without having a million days lifting. Also: lots of pump work like @OTHSteve suggests. Time is limited at the minute, so I’m not quite sure how nice going to manage it. I’m working on it though.
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It depends a bit on just how much you want to prioritize it, but pressing on one day and push pressing 3 or 4 days later works fine. Alternatively, combine it on one day where you press just a bit less than normal, and then destroy yourself with push presses.
Fitting it all in is tough. I find it easier to do when I am in a ‘press at all costs’ mode.
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Press is just so disgustingly hard to grow (or keep your hard won level at for that matter). Fully understand your frustration - have more or less given up on it myself.
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I forgot about this, which also works really well. I suck at push pressing compared to my strict pressing, so I need to roll some of this back in!
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Agreed with @Cyrrex. I would strongly suggest using a full body program, focusing on just essentials and high freqeuncy.
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@OTHSteve @Cyrrex @Koestrizer @doomyguy thanks for the advice guys. I’ve been mulling it over and I just don’t think I have the (consistent) time and recovery ability to go balls deep at either Press or Squat, never mind both right now. Since i’m already committed to these daily squats and will find consistent schedules impossible until the kids are back at school and I can get my team settled, I think I’m going to spend 4-6 weeks majoring in bodyweight training with a few basic lifting sessions a week when feasible. The plan being that I should be to build a base before transitioning into BBB 13 week challenge in September.
Probably 2 full sessions a week: one Squat focused, one Press focused with an optional front squat session. Unsure of template but I want something pretty basic, then finish off with lots of bodyweight stuff.
Edit: @Koestrizer has a point with full body though. Krypteia Redux, Rhodes style could definitely work.
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