10 Miles Back Again

@carlbm it’s your workout dude, I just stole it. It was just meant to be a one off, but I think I’ll keep it this way for the remainder of the cycle, if not beyond.

@T3hPwnisher totally unheated, apart from a pint thermos of tea I take down. I do train in a hoody though, apart from back squats, so I’m not sure if that negates the training effect.

The run really isn’t designed as a fat loss tool though, its main goal is just to increase my cardio capabilities. If I happen to burn some fat too, that’s a bonus.

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Yeah, I didn’t figure the run was for fat loss. I don’t ever consider cardio training to be that. I just meant more a goal of fat loss in general. I thought that was something stated in the log, but I may be confused.

Hoodie didn’t take away in my experience. I wore thermal base layers. Although I did make a point to remove layers as I went to always be on the cusp of discomfort.

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I’ve not given brown fat much attention with regards to fat loss, but I’m certain most people who have lived somewhere where it is cold, and that ends up adapting to it is the result of white fat turning into brown. Like, how when the season hits everyone wears their thickest jacket, and then after a few weeks it becomes alright to go outside for shorter stints without putting anything extra on. The human body is cool.

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You’re really killing it lately with some very serious sessions. Great showing man!

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It is at -45, for sure.

@T3hPwnisher I guess fat loss is a goal, but certainly not one at the forefront of my mind. The goals at the front of my mind are those end of year performance goals, which will likely necessitate losing some weight, along with building a chunk of upper body muscle and building a cardio engine.

@Koestrizer cheers man, its definitely fun to be hitting it hard again. Type 2 fun, definitely not type 1

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There are different kinds of fun?

It’s a concept I’ve stolen from a podcast that no-one else in the world listens to. I forget that not everyone has all the same reference points as me sometimes.

Type 1 fun: going to the pub with your mates or a nice date night with your other half or whatever. Definitely fun, definitely enjoyable, definitely bond forming, probably not memorable or a story anyone is going to want to listen to. Probably isn’t doing much for you in terms of character/self esteem building.

Type 2 fun: The example given on the podcast were rowing the Atlantic or climbing Everest. Things that are in no way enjoyable in the moment, but lead to the stories you can tell the grandkids and build character, self esteem and make for interesting people. @anna_5588 version of “fun” is most likely in this category.

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I draw the line at temperature and water. I hate the cold and getting wet. I also hate suffering that doesn’t involve the task at hand (ie doing a bear crawl in the sand and it sucking because sand gets in my eyes, not because my CV system or muscles can’t sustain the effort)

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I remember reading a weight gaining article by Charles Poliquin years ago and one of the tips was to avoid being cold throughout the day, turn heating up a notch, always wear an extra layer etc. Avoiding the added calorie demand of your body trying to raise temp.

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John McCallum and Dan John have echoed similar sentiments. I believe it. A warm body tends to be a better body, as it’s worth appreciating that leanness tends to be the OPPOSITE of an ideal state for us.

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@dagill2
I’m still curious how a thermost of tea helps the issue of your hands sticking to the bar

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Yeah the average gym bros bulk over winter, cut over the summer is probably the opposite of what is efficient for the human body!

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@anna_5588 I live in Britain, my hands don’t stick to the bar.

@kd13 I’d say most trainees (definitely including myself), are so poor at both the temperature becomes essentially a non issue.

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That said, everywhere CRANKS the heat up in the winter and the AC in the summer that seasons can seem flipped. And then everyone also breaks out the craziest thickest coat they can find the instant they see a snowflake.

I end up dressing for warm weather in the winter whenever I have to go out anywhere because I’m tired of feeling like I’m going to have heat stroke.

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I’m convinced that temperature tolerance is at least in part genetic.

Chinese ppl, especially women, seem pathologically averse to anything cold. Even the northerners, who should be cold tolerant, bundle up so much in the winter, they don’t actually experience the cold
My japanese and korean friends note something similar

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Ha! If you lived in Texas you would get both in winter. One day you can wear shorts, and the next you can wear a coat, and the next shorts again. So exciting :worried:

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For the record, you can do this anywhere. Might get some funny looks though.

How would you separate out genetics from decades of acclimatisation in this case?

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honestly not sure. Granted, I’m taking huge liberties with the word “genetic”

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“Tolerance” can also get a bit confusing here. I imagine people FEEL the same cold, it’s just as Gordon Liddy said: “the trick is not minding”

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Yeah definitely, I’m just imagining a world where a 120lb bro going into “bear mode” over the winter actually means going into your room and trying not to burn through all your calories and die.

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