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Snatch grip jerk from the racks with soft elbows PR

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I think a snatch grip jerk with soft elbows would actually be an incredibly difficult movement!

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It’s worth noting @dagill2 has referred to it by it’s proper name of ā€œthe pressā€ rather than the abomination of ā€œoverhead pressā€

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If I start referring to it as ā€œthe pressā€ that’s even more perfect because people could literally interpret it as anything they like!

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Only is they are sophists, haha. It has a clear definition, from ā€œthe clean and pressā€ ala weightlifting.

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Big semantics gains in this log rn

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It does but it becomes a lot more complex when translated into German and loses a lot of complexity if you talk with clueless folk (like not super into lifting).

Press = Druecken (Drücken). The act of pressing itself with no relation to lifting or a direction. In a gym context you wpuld say stuff like bench press = Bankdrücken.

Jerk = Stoßen (Stossen; which is the same you would use if you want to say ā€œCarl pushed someoneā€. So ā€œStoßenā€ is a weird term for anyone not aware of olympic weightlifting since it isn’t used in a general gym context at all besides weightlifting.
Also the ā€œclean and pressā€ is translated with ā€œStoßenā€ as well. The official name of the discipline lacks the translation for clean (which is ā€œUmsetzen/ Umsatzā€).

So you see there is no connection between ā€œpressā€ and clean and press from weightlifting because we use entirely different words for both.

When someone asks ā€œWas drueckst Du?ā€ (In a gym context), he is 100% referring to your bench press. The word itself gives no reference to overhead pressing, even if you are aware of olympic weightlifting. Which is why I always say overhead press (Ueberkopfdruecken; Überkopfdrücken). Most people will say ā€œSchulterdrueckenā€ (shoulder press) and that actually really gets on my nerves.

So yeah that’s the semantics lesson on German pressing, that was not asked for.

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That’s wild. Wonder how they differentiated between the clean and press vs the clean and jerk back in the day.

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I think it’s like that:

Umsetzen und Kraftdruecken (which word for word would say clean & strength press)

Vs.

Umsetzen und Stoßen (clean and jerk)

Edit: I like strength press. Let’s make that popular!

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My favourite thing about the German language is that whenever there’s a need for a new way to characterize something, just stick two words together :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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Because we need yet another term for the lift that already has 40 different names? I still don’t even know which one we are talking about.

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The strength press should be the press that demands the most strength. The press currently being discussed got slaughtered by too much backwards lean turning it into a standing bench press. Sure, more weight was moved but I never thought those feats showed who was the strongest overhead with the head so far back.

Much like how the floor press would be a better indicator of horizontal pressing strength I wonder if the bottoms up KB press wouldn’t be even better than a strict press for gauging strength pressing overhead.

As a champion backbender, I disagree, haha.

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That’s really fucking strong, no qualifying remarks necessary

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Nice bench press

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The bar paths decent though!

Do you get much out of leg drive?

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I pretty much stopped training leg drive, as my personal goals relate to strict pressing and I get better results when I focus on it. I can move a bit more weight with it when I focus on it through.

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Volume. I’m going to do a slightly modified version of Boring But Strong with alternating trap bar and Z-press for supplemental work. On a second day, I’ll also do some heavy, low volume push press and a little more accessory work of some sort.

I think the pressing in this log just peaked. Don’t expect it to get better than that guys.

I particularly enjoyed the almost strict curl in the middle.

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A few topics back, but when I ran hardgainer I ran it 3x week (9 day week) and usually supersetted the bench/press supplemental with loaded carries in place of the sled. I wasstarting to get pretty damn fatigued by the end of the second cycle, but all in all it went well

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