What very few know is that, back in the locker room, he did that same move to his locker 10 times, saying: “Why did I waste my life playing a kiddie game! Why did I waste my life playing a kiddie game!”
He also announced his endorsement deal with the Tylenol folks.
HH
[quote]CELTIC-DEVIL wrote:
what a total fuckin dumbass and a scumbag!!!
Seriously, theres no call for play like that any time, especially in a WC final and ESPECIALLY in your final ever game!!! I dont give a shite whether there was or wasnt more to it than the camera showed, it was bang out of order.
For fucks sake, he wasnt even at the podium to collect his medal. what a total loser.
Personally, I was neutral in the game…that is until zidane pulled that shit at which moment I immediatley became a raving italy fan…
fuck you Zidane…
CD
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He wasn’t allowed to come out and collect his medal because he was red carded.
[quote]BlaZe wrote:
JKThreeEleven17 wrote:
I think it was a fucking sweet headbutt.
Do you think he actually hit the italian so hard that he fell to the ground?
Or was that guy just being a pussy and jumping to the ground like everyone in pro soccer trying to get a call?
yeah it was pretty sweet! I still thnik it was irresponsible and he let his team down…
I was wondering the same thing, they all ham it up for the cameras… [/quote]
Oh yeah, these guys are drama queens when there is a camera around, for sure!
Having said this - playing beyond your fatigue threshold in the World Cup final probably means that you’d probably fall over if a mosquito landed on your collarbone. Exhaustion doesn’t help.
As for Zidane, I just feel bad that he was so myopic in his actions. I’m sure that in retrospect he will probably feel the same way as everyone who is so dissapointed in him. But that does not excuse his behaviour.
Too bad, becayse he’s a fine athlete but people will probably remember him as the fine athlete who finished his career in an unsavoury way.
Shitty suffix, if you ask me.
[quote]JKThreeEleven17 wrote:
I think it was a fucking sweet headbutt.
Do you think he actually hit the italian so hard that he fell to the ground?
Or was that guy just being a pussy and jumping to the ground like everyone in pro soccer trying to get a call?[/quote]
The Italian would have hit the ground if Zidane had just faked a headbutt. The Italians are masters of the dive. Just look at WWII.
DB
[quote]proxy wrote:
BlaZe wrote:
JKThreeEleven17 wrote:
I think it was a fucking sweet headbutt.
Do you think he actually hit the italian so hard that he fell to the ground?
Or was that guy just being a pussy and jumping to the ground like everyone in pro soccer trying to get a call?
yeah it was pretty sweet! I still thnik it was irresponsible and he let his team down…
I was wondering the same thing, they all ham it up for the cameras…
Oh yeah, these guys are drama queens when there is a camera around, for sure!
Having said this - playing beyond your fatigue threshold in the World Cup final probably means that you’d probably fall over if a mosquito landed on your collarbone. Exhaustion doesn’t help.[/quote]
Except that your theory would mean there would be little force on the headbutt too.
DB
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
proxy wrote:
BlaZe wrote:
JKThreeEleven17 wrote:
I think it was a fucking sweet headbutt.
Do you think he actually hit the italian so hard that he fell to the ground?
Or was that guy just being a pussy and jumping to the ground like everyone in pro soccer trying to get a call?
yeah it was pretty sweet! I still thnik it was irresponsible and he let his team down…
I was wondering the same thing, they all ham it up for the cameras…
Oh yeah, these guys are drama queens when there is a camera around, for sure!
Having said this - playing beyond your fatigue threshold in the World Cup final probably means that you’d probably fall over if a mosquito landed on your collarbone. Exhaustion doesn’t help.
Except that your theory would mean there would be little force on the headbutt too.
DB[/quote]
Hmm good point. What I was thinking (but didn’t express too well) is that when you are exhausted, it doesn’t take much, but Zidane probably did hit hard.
Definitely looked like more than just a friendly French love-tap!
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
JKThreeEleven17 wrote:
I think it was a fucking sweet headbutt.
Do you think he actually hit the italian so hard that he fell to the ground?
Or was that guy just being a pussy and jumping to the ground like everyone in pro soccer trying to get a call?
The Italian would have hit the ground if Zidane had just faked a headbutt. The Italians are masters of the dive. Just look at WWII.
DB[/quote]
He was just surrendering. He couldn’t find the white flag fast enough.
(sorry cadav)
Sweet head butt. At least he didn’t pop him in the face.
[quote]Donut62 wrote:
Sweet head butt. At least he didn’t pop him in the face.[/quote]
Agreed. He went out his own way, headbutting an Italian surrender monkey in the process.
That and the fact that he’s already won a world cup, footballer of the year and the European cup the European championships = a great career.
I thought it was fucking great as I had spent the whole game calling all the players faggots for flopping, etc.
[quote]apayne wrote:
I thought it was fucking great as I had spent the whole game calling all the players faggots for flopping, etc. [/quote]
Why did you get upset? It would be like watching a hockey game and getting mad that the guys are bumping into each other. Soccer is about acting. The game with the ball and the goals is secondary and is only there to heighten the drama.
I think soccer would be better if they just used a time penalty for fouls instead of cards, like lacrosse or hockey. Flopping would lose a lot of its impact as would the current variability of what constitutes a bookable foul, what is red and what is yellow. You could still have ejections for violent fouls (i.e. “game misconduct”), but you would avoid changing the course of a game and tournament like the red card to Mastreoni in the U.S.-Italy game.
I also think penalty-shot fouls should be reviewable on instant replay. Too often the replays reveal a flop that the ref couldn’t see due to poor angle, etc.
While I’m at it, the offsides rule should be abandoned within 6 yards of the goal once play has entered the 18 yard line.
DB
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
apayne wrote:
I thought it was fucking great as I had spent the whole game calling all the players faggots for flopping, etc.
Why did you get upset? It would be like watching a hockey game and getting mad that the guys are bumping into each other. Soccer is about acting. The game with the ball and the goals is secondary and is only there to heighten the drama.
I think soccer would be better if they just used a time penalty for fouls instead of cards, like lacrosse or hockey. Flopping would lose a lot of its impact as would the current variability of what constitutes a bookable foul, what is red and what is yellow. You could still have ejections for violent fouls (i.e. “game misconduct”), but you would avoid changing the course of a game and tournament like the red card to Mastreoni in the U.S.-Italy game.
I also think penalty-shot fouls should be reviewable on instant replay. Too often the replays reveal a flop that the ref couldn’t see due to poor angle, etc.
While I’m at it, the offsides rule should be abandoned within 6 yards of the goal once play has entered the 18 yard line.
DB[/quote]
good call comparing hockey to soccer…
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
apayne wrote:
I thought it was fucking great as I had spent the whole game calling all the players faggots for flopping, etc.
Why did you get upset? It would be like watching a hockey game and getting mad that the guys are bumping into each other. Soccer is about acting. The game with the ball and the goals is secondary and is only there to heighten the drama.
I think soccer would be better if they just used a time penalty for fouls instead of cards, like lacrosse or hockey. Flopping would lose a lot of its impact as would the current variability of what constitutes a bookable foul, what is red and what is yellow. You could still have ejections for violent fouls (i.e. “game misconduct”), but you would avoid changing the course of a game and tournament like the red card to Mastreoni in the U.S.-Italy game.
I also think penalty-shot fouls should be reviewable on instant replay. Too often the replays reveal a flop that the ref couldn’t see due to poor angle, etc.
While I’m at it, the offsides rule should be abandoned within 6 yards of the goal once play has entered the 18 yard line.
DB[/quote]
I don’t disagree with most of the suggestions, but the offsides change would still enable too much ‘camping’ at the goal. It would make for higher scores, but that doesn’t translate to more exciting. A player just sitting around the box is just boring.
When you run full speed trying to keep a ball dribbling along with you and you lose your footing, and you are exhausted, you will go down pretty easily.
What I hate is the shin grabbing and moaning that nearly always accompanies it. Portugal was the worst for that.
Henry, in the final match, was stellar. He stayed on his feet through a bunch of checks and pushed through a lot of defenders, also generating a lot of scoring opportunities. He even had an Italian jump on his back, fall off and look for a foul call which didn’t happen. Henry was the man for most of that game.
As for Zidane, until we know what was said, its tough to judge. I’m glad he put it into the chest instead of the face like Luis Figo pulled on the dutch. He stepped into it, the Italian walked into it, so yeah I think he went down pretty hard.
Also the cameras miss a lot of action away from the ball so the buildup to that headbutt is also largely unknown.
I have no less respect. It was a very big “fuck off!” but it wasn’t a dangerous shot to the face, or a punch in the nuts… it was a face-on, big manly ‘fuck you’ headbutt to the chest.
It was not the best move with regards to the team effort, but it certainly wasn’t the worst thing I’ve seen. I think no less of him as a player.
You haters can all fuck off and go cry in your beer…Italia is the world champion
“You are what your record says youy are” - in this case, the record says:
Italia, WORLD CHAMPIONS
[quote]Sonny S wrote:
Mindless drivel[/quote]
We’re not talking about Italy, so go start a thread on that if you are so inclined. No one cares.
And in terms of the Roger Clemens comparison, that is kind of funny, especially since Clemens threw at his own son in Spring training after the kid hit a home run off him the previous at bat…
[quote]Sonny S wrote:
You haters can all fuck off and go cry in your beer…Italia is the world champion
“You are what your record says youy are” - in this case, the record says:
Italia, WORLD CHAMPIONS[/quote]
Yeah, but look what they’re champions of. Pathetic. Don’t get me wrong, Italy is cool. Great vino and the food! Beautiful place too. This is like being the world champs at watermelon seed spitting. Who gives a rat’s ass?
HH
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
This is like being the world champs at watermelon seed spitting. Who gives a rat’s ass?
HH[/quote]
The entire world outside the United States.
If it hadn’t been for that ridiculous off-sides nullification of Italy’s second goal, the game never would’ve gone into overtime.
The right team won.
Forza Italia!