Zappa Starter Kit Outside the Box

The Muffin Man from the one you posted in 1975 compared to 1984 the solos are completely different styles but they are the same skeleton structure.

I like the one from 1984 more because it’s faster speed and he used those nice bends in it more than a bunch pull offs and picking.

It’s also interesting how that solo evolved, the first times he played that it was a lot more blues style with a slower tempo (actually might be one of the best ones IMO). One of the first ones was at a University show “Muffin Man Goes to College” with Beefhart. The Austin TX one was a couple months later.

That Montana solo is a real monster!! Legend!

I’ll post one version of that later that is slower tempo but really was one of the best flows he’s ever done, Frank was really on the mark on it, really cool whah pedal implementation. It’s called the Whipping Post version of Montana.

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@boilerman

Check this out, maybe you heard before but this solo has the best flow and at 6:42 that scale, OMG, now I bet anyone can play that but it’s the sound that makes it, if you don’t have that custom sound you can’t make it sound that good and he’s using the whah pedal on it too

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Early Muffin Man version, used as the intro and not the end of show, slower tempo hard heavy blues style solo-

@boilerman

If you like Muffin Man, here is a composition from 1972 that has a very similar riff. The solo starts at 3:19 in which the more I hear this solo, the more I love it! However it’s a studio recording but he’s got a lot going on in this solo, some really really cool sounds. The very end of this is also amazing!

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Lately I’ve really been enjoying this tune from this studio version.

In the past I always preferred the live versions, but this version has really grown on me.

The drums are so nice too.

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This composition is bad azz!!!

I found someone playing the bass to this, seeing someone playing this shows how sick this really is, plus all the other lines other instruments have in this.

I really like the cheesy 70s high pitch whistle, I don’t know if that is a keyboard or a horn?

Freaking wild!

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Awesome jam here.

I like how the drummer is in front and this drummer is rocking. I believe he ended up in a band called Journey?

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Chungas revenge 1980, this is what makes the 6-string guitar interesting! Guitar is generally a boring instrument but this shows what a guitarist can do with it.

At 2:44 he flips the switch on the Les Paul and takes for quite a ride here.

Van Halen talked some shit about Zappa playing like a type writer, well after 2:44 that proves Eddie incorrect.

While I really don’t like Eddies songs I love the unique sound effects he throws into all his stuff, it is genius. However it the stuff like Eruption that I think makes guitar boring, once you see speed on hammer on pull offs, it just gets OLD.

IMO, this gets more interesting everytime I see it

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I’ve never been a fan of Dweezil playing his father’s music, but this one is great. It was shortly after Frank died and it’s Chungas Revenge, pretty damn good.

And Dweezil was in The Running Man